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Perceptions and Realities

Why Rex Ryan shouldn't worry about his job, why Chip Kelly should slow down, 10 things to consider before kickoff on Sunday and introducing a new pass-rush stat that will make sacks seem as outdated as leather helmets

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Greg A. Bedard
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FOXBOROUGH, Mass. — When Rex Ryan stepped to the podium after his Jets fell to the Patriots, 13-10, on Thursday night, he looked as if somebody had just punched him in the gut. The Jets have lost 23 regular-season games in his four-plus seasons at the helm, but none sting more than those at hands of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.

“It’s a divisional opponent; New England is one of the great teams in this league,” linebacker David Harris told The MMQB.  “It’s kind of a measuring stick for him and for us.”

This one hurts Ryan to his core for a couple of reasons. Foremost, this was a golden opportunity to steal one against a Patriots team—the AFC East bullies the past 13 seasons—that isn’t operating from a position of strength. Brady’s targets were so vaunted that Julian Edelman, he of 69 career receptions entering the season, drew double and triple coverage in the end zone. If there was a time to knock off the Patriots, it was Thursday night, when Brady completed just 48.7% of his passes (his lowest mark since December 2002) and they managed just nine first downs, converted 22% of third downs and gained a putrid 3.6 yards per play. The Pats were ripe for the taking, and the Jets knew it.

“I think so,” said cornerback Antonio Cromartie in the bowels of Gillette Stadium. “We gave them seven points because of a blown coverage, we didn’t know the personnel that was in, and that’s seven points there. We felt like they couldn’t move the ball on us—they couldn’t run the ball or they couldn’t throw the ball on us, especially to the outside guys.”

The perception is that the Jets are a mess. This is the undeniable reality about the Jets: Rex Ryan and his staff can flat-out coach.

The other reason why Ryan was so despondent? This is the second straight season in which Ryan and his coaches took an undermanned and outclassed team to Gillette as double-digit underdogs, with Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith at quarterback, and put together a tremendous game plan, only to see the players fail to execute in crucial spots and lose by three points each time.

This is where perception meets reality. The perception of the Jets is that they are a mess. You have an owner, Woody Johnson, who doesn’t know which end is up on a football (OK, that part is true). There’s a new general manager, John Idzik, who had coach Rex Ryan forced upon him and is counting the days until he can install his own coach. You’ve heard there’s a disconnect between the kind of players Ryan needs to win, and the kind of players Idzik has given him. And that Ryan ultimately doomed himself by inserting Sanchez into the fourth quarter of an exhibition game, only to suffer a potentially season-ending shoulder injury.

As the narrative goes, Ryan is a dead coach walking. But the great thing about football is that perception doesn’t matter and reality plays out on the field for all to see. And this is the undeniable reality about the Jets: Ryan and his staff can flat-out coach. They just don’t have enough players yet. And haven’t, really, since he’s been the Jets’ coach. For years this coaching staff inflated how good they really were; it wasn’t until last season when they truly struggled to make something out of nothing.

Last year was torture. Up by three, the Jets had two opportunities deep in Patriots territory with less than 2:15 remaining to either add a score and seal the win, or leave little time and no timeouts for the Patriots to drive the field and force overtime. But receiver Stephen Hill dropped a wide-open pass at the 12-yard line, and then receiver Jeremy Kerley slipped on a route beyond the first-down marker, forcing Sanchez to take a sack. That latter really hurt. A first down conversion would have left the Patriots with almost no time to take the game to overtime, but Stephen Gostkowski kicked a 48-yard field goal to cap a six-play, 54-yard drive and force OT as time expired. In overtime, the Jets held the Patriots to a field goal and were driving when guard Brandon Moore whiffed on a pass block, and Sanchez didn’t secure the ball on a sack, leading to a game-ending fumble.

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Jets QB Geno Smith threw three interceptions, this one to Alfonso Dennard in the fourth quarter, and finished with a 27.6 rating. (Jared Wickerham/Getty Images)

On Thursday night, the Jets had five possessions to either tie or take the lead with the Patriots leading 13-10, and went punt, interception, punt, interception and interception under an avalanche of dropped passes and poor throws by Smith.

“We’ve got to hang onto the football,” Ryan said Thursday night. “What you are paid to do is catch the football, and obviously we have to do a better job of that.”

He might as well have thrown in staying on your feet, blocking the guy in front of you and not throwing the ball to your opponent. All are part of the job descriptions that Jets players have increasingly failed at. Two games. Two times that Jets coaches put their players in position to stage a big-time upset over a hated division rival. Twice, Ryan and his staff were let down by players who failed to execute the basic elements of football. On Thursday night, Ryan didn’t say it outright but his defeated look conveyed the thought: What more can we as coaches do?

He’s right. Whatever you think is going on with the Jets, whatever your perceptions are, it has nothing to do with the coaches and the current personnel department. The players, right now and last season, are/were not good enough and failed to execute. And that’s on the previous general manager, Mike Tannenbaum, and his personnel staff. Sure, they got the Jets to the AFC Championship game in 2009 and ’10, and they should be commended for that. But they also allowed the Jets to get old and slow in too many spots too quickly. Many of them lost their jobs because of that, and now it’s Idzik’s job to rebuild the roster. He’s off to a good start, but it’s not going to happen overnight—especially with the cap jail the previous administration put the Jets in. And anyone who pretends that change should happen instantly has played too much fantasy football, because that thinking isn’t grounded in reality.

The Jets have a solid offensive line. Wideouts Santonio Holmes (when not pouting) and Kerley (when not injured) are good offensive pieces. They have a potentially outstanding young defensive line with Muhammad Wilkerson, Sheldon Richardson, Damon Harrison and Kenrick Ellis. Inside linebackers David Harris and Demario Davis are very good. Antonio Cromartie is a good cornerback, and there are a couple more promising players in the secondary.

But that’s it. The running backs and outside linebackers are average at best. There aren’t enough weapons. Even if Sanchez were healthy, he’d still be a below-average QB who might seem better than that because of how green Smith is. Those positions will be improved or overhauled next year, and the Jets will be on better footing.

The media-driven soap opera will tell you Ryan has little chance of seeing that come to fruition. Their appearances the past two seasons at Gillette Stadium, and what actually transpired between the white lines, should tell you that’s not reality.

Introducing a New Pass-Rush Stat*

One of biggest indicators of success for NFL defensive coaches is the ability to affect the quarterback.

Sure, that means sacks, which are an official NFL statistic. And quarterback hits, which are also tallied in press boxes. But affecting the quarterback, making him feel pressure, has several other factors, most of which aren’t officially tallied (though NFL teams do them internally).

*Name That Stat

What should we call our new pass-rush statistic? Give us your suggestion on Twitter at #themmqbpassrush and we may use it.

We at The MMQB thought long and hard about finding a better way to evaluate quarterback pressure, both from individual and team standpoints. We’ve developed our own formula, which we think will highlight players who aren’t getting the glory stats (sacks) but are still affecting the quarterback just as much.

To be up front about it: This formula is far from a finished product. There could be tweaks along the way, and we welcome any feedback you might have.

The two statistics that we’ll be tabulating are sack assists and drawn holds. The latter is self-explanatory. Pass rushers are sometimes held by offensive lineman before they can sack the quarterback. Those plays aren’t official plays for the NFL. But they can be nearly as damaging. It’s a 10-yard foul, although there is no loss of down.

A sack assist is given to a player who allows a teammate sack to get a sack. You see it all the time. One player comes flying at a quarterback, causing him to bolt, and the QB winds up in the arms of a different defender. Sometimes the sacker didn’t do very much, yet he still gets credit for the sack. The player who actually caused the sack gets nothing. We’re going to change that.

Here’s how the formula works.

Sacks

Because not all sacks are created equally, we have divided up sacks into three categories: solo, assisted and easy.

Solo sack (1.25 points): For the player who beats a blocker and gets the sack on his own. These are the real sack masters; they should be rewarded for their standout individual effort.

Assisted sack (.75 points): Given to the player who officially receives a sack but had help from a teammate in taking the quarterback down.

Easy sack (.75 points): An official sack that falls into one of the following categories: coverage sack (quarterback held the ball longer than 3.3 seconds because the coverage was so good); unblocked, usually because of a schemed blitz; offensive miscue, such as the quarterback tripping after getting stepped on by an offensive lineman; or garbage-time sack, which we have defined as a sack when the offense is trailing by more than two scores with four minutes or less remaining in the game.

Sack assist (.5 points): As described above, this is when a player aids in the sacking of a quarterback. The official sacker will get an “assisted” or “easy” sack (.75 points), and the disrupter gets a “sack assist.”

Disruptions

These three categories—drawn holds, hurries and hits—are not official statistics, but they’re extremely important. A team can have zero sacks, but if they accumulate hurries or hits, they’re making life extremely uncomfortable for a quarterback. The hurries and hits were shared with us by our friends at ProFootballFocus.com. Our hits and hurries include plays wiped out by penalty.

Drawn hold (.75 points): The player who draws a holding penalty on a pass play. Only tabulated if the penalty results in a “no play.” If there is holding on a sack and the sack counts, there is no drawn hold—although that player could get a sack assist.

Hurry (.5 points): When the actions of a defender causes the quarterback to alter his throw or footwork. This is what defenses call “moving a quarterback off his spot.”

Hit (.5 points): Recorded after or as the quarterback releases a pass and goes to the ground as a result of contact with a defender.

Once the film is graded, we come up with Pressure Points. We feel this is a much better way to evaluate what kind of quarterback pressure a player or team is generating. We will divide the performances by edge rushers (ends and outside linebackers), interior rushers (tackles and inside linebackers) and by team. Individually, we will handout two awards.

Awards

Top Edge Rusher of Week 1: Cameron Wake, Miami

In a close race, Wake (2.5 sacks) edged two players (Robert Quinn of the Rams and Justin Houston of the Chiefs) who each had three solo sacks. Why? In addition to his sacks, Wake had another eight quarterback disruptions. That’s as many as Quinn and Houston had combined.

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Unsung Edge Rusher of Week 1: Dwight Freeney, San Diego

If you look at the official statistics, Freeney had one assisted tackle, a half sack and three hits. A closer look shows that Freeney had a total of nine quarterback disruptions. That’s doing some work.

Top (and Unsung) Interior Rusher of Week 1: Ndamukong Suh, Detroit

According to the official statistics, Suh had zero tackles, one hit and one pass defensed. That’s not even close to the true impact that he had. Suh directly caused two sacks with sack assists, and had nine other quarterback disruptions.

Here are two examples of Suh (circled in yellow) causing sacks, one for Nick Fairley, and the other split between Fairley and Ziggy Ansah. Each time, Suh’s pressure created the opportunity for his teammates.

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The ranking of the interior rushers:

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All 32 Teams

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First …

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Eagles coach Chip Kelly knows only the gas pedal, but will the wear and tear be too much for his own players? (Rob Carr/Getty Images)

The impressive debut of Chip Kelly’s offense in the Eagles’ opening win against the Redskins sent tongues wagging around the NFL because of its fast tempo. It certainly was something to see. And less time between plays has been on the rise the past couple of seasons, so it’s only natural to think that’s going to increase. Watch just about any college football game, and you’re going to see fastbreak offenses. But I’m not ready to say that what you saw from the Eagles in the first half is the start of some revolution in the NFL. The biggest reason is the impact that injuries might have. The pro and college game is completely different in this regard, with college having much more rest built in. Most college teams play 12 regular season games with two bye weeks. They are limited to four hours of football work daily and 20 hours per week, including practice, classroom work and training. They have rosters up to 105 players. Some NFL teams play 13 straight weeks, including short weeks with one Thursday night game. The only limit on football time is three hours for the 14 padded practices. There are only 46 players available on game day. Those are major differences, and almost make full-time run-and-gun offenses unrealistic. And the other factor is that the hurry-up offense fatigues the offense just as much as it does the defense. The Patriots ran over 80 plays in three games last season: against Denver, Seattle and San Francisco. In all three games they were gassed in the fourth quarter, and there was a hangover. After Denver, the Patriots lost to Seattle. After playing the Seahawks and 49ers, the Patriots played poorly against the Jets and Jaguars. There might be a revolution in the offing, but we need to see more data first.

… and 10

1. The thing that stood out to me most during Week 1 was how much bad football was being played league-wide. I think we should get used to this early in seasons under the new collective bargaining agreement. With so much practice time being cut back in the preseason, including padded practices, teams just aren’t getting as much work as they used to—and it shows. The first couple weeks are now basically full-squad preseason games. The “real” season will probably start in Week 4.

2. The Ravens’ lack of receiving targets was at the forefront of their blowout loss to the Broncos, but just as concerning was the play of safety Michael Huff. He was brought in from the Raiders to help ease the pain caused by Ed Reed’s exit, but Huff was brutal against the Broncos, both in coverage against Julius Thomas and taking bad angles on each of Demaryius Thomas’ long receptions. It’s a huge drop to go from Reed and Bernard Pollard to Huff and James Ihedigbo. If a defense isn’t strong up the middle, it’s going to struggle. The Ravens are trying to get first-round pick Matt Elam ready. They need to move quickly.

Michael Huff (29) proved to be an immediate concern in a Ravens' secondary once patrolled by Ed Reed.
Michael Huff (29) proved to be an immediate concern in a Ravens’ secondary once patrolled by Ed Reed. (Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)

3. Related to that, it was amazing to watch how deep the Ravens’ safeties played against Peyton Manning. They must have bought the hype about Manning’s arm being better. The Ravens played at a depth of about 15 yards. Last year, the Patriots were at 10 yards, daring Manning to throw deep. He couldn’t. Manning’s arm strength is better this season, but only marginally. The game plan should still be to make him throw deep to the corners of the field. He completed two of five passes in those areas, with touchdowns to Andre Caldwell and Thomas. Both were plays on which the receiver clearly beat the cornerback off the line with a long single-high safety. Manning tops out at about 30 yards.

4. Yes, I still think the Broncos are overrated. I never read too much into Week 1, especially now (remember item No. 1?), but I have to admit that some new blood is helping Denver in some previously weak spots. Right guard Louis Vazquez was an underrated signing from the Chargers. He’s never been a road grader in the run game, but he’s an excellent pass blocker. Defensive tackle Terrance Knighton was freed from purgatory in Jacksonville and instantly upgraded an average tackle group. And second-year undrafted safety Duke Ihenacho is the Broncos’ best safety by far. They were terrible at safety last season.

5. There has to be something going on injury-wise with Patriots defensive tackle Vince Wilfork. He’s never going to wow with quarterback pressure, but he has been elite at taking on double teams and holding his gap against the run. Wilfork struggled mightily with that in the first two games, to the point that Jets guard Vlad Ducasse completely handled him on Thursday night. This is something to watch because the Patriots are basically playing a three-man tackle rotation with Wilfork, Tommy Kelly (who also tired against the Bills) and undrafted free agent Joe Vellano. That’s all the Patriots have.

6. There was a fairly questionable call with 8:38 left and the Lions leading the Vikings, 27-24. On 3rd-and-5 from Minnesota’s 27-yard line, Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford appeared to throw an uncatchable ball to Calvin Johnson—the ball hit six yards beyond Johnson near the edge of the six-foot white border line—but Vikings cornerback Xavier Rhodes was called for pass interference. Big call, as the Lions went on to score and seal the game. I saw NFL’s vice president of officiating Dean Blandino at the Patriots-Jets game on Thursday and asked him about it. He said a pass has to be blatantly uncatchable—at least outside that white stripe—for it to be deemed an uncatchable ball. Another question I have from that game: why was referee John Parry yucking it up with the Lions after a few plays, including that one? I’m sure the Vikings were thrilled Parry was giggling while announcing a big penalty in the game.

7. Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald must feel like he’s been busted out of jail now that he has a real quarterback throwing to him. And Carson Palmer was very good for three quarters, but he was shaky in the fourth and showed many of the problems that have plagued him late in his career. He showed no pocket awareness, despite left tackle Levi Brown being a turnstile the entire game, especially when Robert Quinn blew around the corner to execute a sack/strip. The next series ended when Palmer rushed his throw and didn’t come close to connecting with Andre Roberts. Then on 3rd-and-2 after the two-minute warning, the Cardinals had a beautiful wheel route called for running back Andre Ellington—and a big play was there to be had—but Palmer threw it way too early and wide. So while Palmer’s an improvement over previous Cardinals quarterbacks (who wouldn’t be), he’s not yet a complete one.

8. The Patriots didn’t inquire about former receiver Brandon Lloyd. If anything, they called him to set up their emergency list like they do at every position to see who might be available should the worst happen. The ship has sailed on Lloyd and the Patriots. He was released because he wasn’t a fit in the locker room, not because of money. I never say never on player acquisitions. Desperation makes people do all sorts of things, but the Patriots aren’t that desperate yet.

Brian Cushing victimized Philip Rivers for a pick-six in the fourth quarter last Monday night by ignoring his keys and relying on instinct.
Brian Cushing victimized Philip Rivers for a pick-six in the fourth quarter last Monday night by ignoring his keys and relying on instinct. (Gregory Bull/AP)

9. When I first watched Philip Rivers throw a game-tying pick-six to Texans linebacker Brian Cushing midway through the fourth quarter on Monday night, I thought it was another example of Rivers making a bone-headed decision that hurt his team. It seemed like a fairly basic pressure by the Texans. When running back Danny Woodhead motioned out of the backfield, a safety rotated down to cover it. Rivers should have known Cushing would be reading his eyes in the middle of the field against a five-rush man that the Chargers didn’t have protected well. But after watching the coaches’ film, I’m mostly going to credit Cushing. It appeared that he was supposed to cover tight end Ladarius Green, who crossed underneath and away from where Rivers was throwing. Instead of moving toward Green, Cushing relied on instincts (and great pressure from linebacker Whitney Mercilus) to make a beeline for Woodhead and a tremendous diving interception. Rivers said he could have thrown a hot route against the blitz to Green as well. Cushing’s lucky Rivers didn’t do that—Green was wide open. But good players guess right, and Cushing did.

Cameron Wake
Cameron Wake (Matt Sullivan/Getty Images)

10. While most of the focus this Sunday will be on the 49ers-Seahawks and Manning Bowl III (Broncos-Giants), I’m fairly interested in the Dolphins traveling to Indianapolis. For Miami, this starts a stretch in which they will face five playoff teams from last season (Colts, Falcons, Ravens, Patriots and Bengals) and the Saints in a span of seven games. The Dolphins’ pass rush was by far the best in the league in Week 1, and no quarterback was hit more last season than the Colts’ Andrew Luck. Miami showed their “speed” rush package by having Cameron Wake, Olivier Vernon and Dion Jordan on the field at the same time. The Colts are going to need a much better game out of left tackle Anthony Castonzo than they got against the Raiders.

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33 comments
michaelk_ny
michaelk_ny

Regarding all the sack stats (solo, assisted, easy, drawn, hurry, hit):


One of the things you really ought to do is to track these stats separately for several seasons, and then see how each one correlates for each player from season to season and from first half of the season to second half (or even use the first half of games vs. the second half of games).


The stats that are the most stable across time will be the ones that reflect the most skill; the stats that fluctuate more randomly will be the ones that reflect more luck.


You probably also want to control for the opposing offenses.  Some teams allow more sacks and hurries and commit more holds than others.


There are also teammate effects -- a guy who gets double-teamed often might not have as impressive numbers as he should relative to his teammates.  That will be much harder to tease out.

OkieStater
OkieStater

I think this is a scam to make a bunch of stats like they have in baseball....like "he bats .323 on Tuesday afternoon after a rain storm".  Don't mean squat.  Just something for the announcers to ramble on about.

FishHead
FishHead

I think I would be more impressed with this new pass rush stat theory if the example they gave of Suh "causing" a sack wasn't a simple stunt that the Vikings right guard misplayed.

NuggyBuggy
NuggyBuggy

Wait a minute.  The argument is that *because* Ryan's players aren't "blocking the guy in front of you", and are "throwing the ball to (their) opponent", that Ryan's "flat-out" ability to coach has been obscured.  But don't all these fundamental mistakes reflect - at some level - terrible coaching ?

dacrimmins
dacrimmins

I like the concept, but I think the arithmetic should always add up to 1.0.  

Frank14
Frank14

of course "bad (early season) football" has to do with practices being cut back instead of coaches refusing to play their starters in preseason.

gary41
gary41

When teams have problems over the years, part of the blame is coaching, but improvements have to come from the front office.  How well coaches advise and front office people coordinate and select personnel is proven on the field.  At the very top of personnel decisions the QB is most critical.  In this regard, the Jets have failed miserably.  This is because they have failed to properly scout and devote critical resources and review to this problem.  Instead they have taken the easy first round alternative, hoping for the best.  That's little better than rolling the dice.  Ryan is not a QB guru, but there are smart people available who can do this.  Look for example, at Payton, (former QB) who selected Romo when he was in Dallas and Brees when in New Orleans.  Coaches look a lot smarter when they have a top 10 QB working the field.   

mcluvin
mcluvin

Rex Ryan is a good defensive coach. Further as a head coach he is one that connects to his players and can motivate them. Like you have mentioned in your article, except for revis he hasn't had the players to be consistently successful in the nfl. At times he has had a good run game and at times he has had a competent defense. But that the defense was entirely the result of coaching and having one shutdown corner. Mark sanchez was never any good. He is a complimentary game manager type of quarterback. If you have a good running game he is competent. He has never been and will never be one who wins games for a team on his own. He is qb who panicks at the first sign of pass rush and tries to make low percentage plays. Yes it was a mistake to insert him in the 4th quarter. But allowing sanchez to play any snaps this year would have been taking away chances for geno smith to get game action. They need to decide if smith is any good. Hopefully, he get his growing pains out of the way to show jets they may have a qb of the future by the end of the year. Ryan is a blowhard that has invited a target on his back from the rest of the league. Less so now that they arent' that good. But I cannot understand why the media in general and the ny media (Daily news & post) and particular are so anti ryan. Probably because the media whores who celebrated him initially for his loud mouth figure they can sell more papers by making outrageous claims of misery in the hopes they sell more newspapers. The guy can flat out coach and he can motivate a team. he is not an offensive guy.. so what. I will take a good coach in one side of the ball over a poor coach who knows offense and defense. I hope they don't fire him. If they do, they will regret it because he will be a successful coach somewhere if not for the jets 

amsomers
amsomers

There are 32 teams in the league, but yet there is a need to always, always reference the Patriots, and in this case twice.  No observations on Washington, GB, New Orleans, etc.  But two references to the Pats.   I realize Mr. King is a Patriots fan, but shouldn't that bias be something for which you work hard not to show?  You are the most informative writer in the business, it would just be great if you could be balanced too. 

OffshoreInsiders.com
OffshoreInsiders.com

I agree, we will quickly find out if the Fins offseason moves paid off. I say no, because they still have an unproven QB and their tight end safety valve is out

Matthew W
Matthew W

2009: 9-7

2010: 11-5

2011: 8-8

2012: 6-10

2013: 1-1


Ummmmm.....so when is his "flat out coaching" going to kick in? He's on an obvious downward trend as a coach and folks have been clamoring for his dismissal for a couple of years now. Rex is a poor head coach and rode a stout defense and a decent running game into the playoffs. The good players have left and he's picked bust after bust after bust to replace them. He's worth a soundbite, that's it. Can him.

tom.aikins
tom.aikins

If Ryan weren't such a blowhard and didn't do dumb things like inserting Mark Sanchez into a meaningless game behind an inexperienced line then your argument might have some substance. But he is and he did. And he will continue to keep doing so because that's who he is. He's a distraction because he keeps putting himself into that position and actually seems to enjoy it. His whole family has been overrated since Buddy started coaching. He was a lousy head coach just like Rex and if Rob became a head coach he'd be just as lousy. In fact, Rob is a lousy defensive coordinator. Check his stats if you don't believe it. His defenses have never been near the top in the league. At least, though, he keeps his mouth shut most of the time. 

bombycilla
bombycilla

two possible tweaks to the pass-rush stat: 1) after watching Demarcus Ware finish with zero sacks while constantly being chipped by rb's and te's, i think outside rushers should be rewarded for drawing double teams. 2) the stat should be adjusted for how many pass plays the defense faces.

me1
me1

Ryan is a failure as a head coach. If putting Sanchez in behind the 4th string line opening up the risk of injury is  "coaching", then I'm an idiot. Sanchez is a poor QB...but he would have been the starter or backup either way. They would still HAD to pay 8 million for the services regardless. Instead...they are paying 8 million plus the cost of the injury and have sacrificed a rookie QB draft pick...brilliant.

DamionMosher
DamionMosher

If you want us to buy into the real season doesn't begin until week 4, maybe you should refrain from calling anyone overrated until week 5. And if one of those teams you keep calling overrated continues to prove you a moronic a$$, you should have to eat crow and post the pictures of you doing so on you mm qb page.

VearlyC.EvansSr.
VearlyC.EvansSr.

Should the Jets bring in Vince Young to be their backup quarterback?
Vince has shown everyone that he is NOT a cancer in the locker room and that he is a hard worker… He is a 6’-5" mobile quarterback with talent and playoff experience…. He is hungry, motivated and determined to continue playing the game that he love so much, NFL FOOTBALL
It won’t cost a lot of money to get him… Vince is a LOW risk-HIGH reward type of guy… This would be a wise move for any GM/Coach looking to upgrade their qb pool….

Blue Martini
Blue Martini

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion but nothing you said is going to convince me Ryan is a football  coach.  You obviously haven't watched Jets games for the past 3 yrs... Bonehead calls every week...I'm with the fireman and the baggers....last place. is best they are going to do this yr.

ArifHasan
ArifHasan

I'm not so sure how well this works out as a "team" stat, although I do like it as an individual stat. If two players assist on a sack while the third gets the job done, do those two players get equal credit for the team's sack? I agree that they should be individually credited for their performance, but if only one of the assists was critical, why award the team an additional half-point of pressure. If both were critical, then you're over-rewarding the individual players.


There's not an easy answer or even a fix, but it doesn't feel right as a team stat given how things can accumulate in odd ways over the course of a game (then a season).


I don't like "interceptions forced" (as suggested elsewhere in the comments) mostly because that's not really because the defender did anything different than on a different hit/hurry. The defender simply had a teammate in the right place and the opportunity to sack a stupid quarterback.

SweetLightCrude
SweetLightCrude

I cannot understand how you can declare Ryan a good coach based on a sample of two games, one of which was against a team that was basically out on its feet. There are very few teams that could have lost to the Patriots on Thursday. The Jets are one of those teams. There is no denying that Ryan knows defense, but a head coach has to do a hell of a lot more than that. It is no doubt also true that Ryan is not at fault for all that is wrong with the Jets. Still, that others have messed up is not evidence that Ryan, himself, doesn't suck. 

His personality is clearly linked to many of the Jets faults. He behaves as if you can bully your way to victory with your mouth. He tries to cover up the lack of substance with bombast. He is the team leader, and the team has assumed his personality. That's his fault. 


phoneman
phoneman

If he is such a great coach, why is his record so dismal and getting worse. By any standard Don Shula could flat out coach, Tom Landry could flat out coach. To be able to "flat out coach" you have to be able to take the talent you have and win. Period.

RoundOut89
RoundOut89

Ha, this guy only watches ESPN highlights, Denver had great safety play last year except for one glaring Baltimore play.

OffshoreInsiders.com
OffshoreInsiders.com

You lost me at Rex Ryan can flat out coach. He keeps games close for those of us who like to invest in outcomes. But that's because Vegas gives him little respect too 

John Speak
John Speak

Good job on Jets - with one major gripe, how could you leave off Coples? He is going to be a monster.

Jaydpauley
Jaydpauley

What about adding interceptions forced and incompletions forced? Interceptions forced = 3.00, and incompletions forced = 0.25. It's highly subjective, but so are some of the others. This also might overlap with hurries, but maybe there is a way you can fit this in.

Gordi
Gordi

Well... which end of the football is up? 

HeyVancouver
HeyVancouver

"The “real” season will probably start in Week 4" ... Oh PHLEEEEZE Dude ...you're now officially part of the media stampede pushing the simplistic theory that less padded off-season practices under the new CBA means sloppy early season football ... old school thinking all the way ... the players should beat each other senseless before the season even begins to prove that they are ready ?? ... teams have 4 preseason games, and with the exception of the first half of the 3rd, they barely play their starters in any of the first 3 and not at all in the 4th ... so apparently they don't see the need for more real padded pre-regular season contact ... btw the 49ers and Packers seem to have been ready for the opener !!!    

GTT
GTT

@amsomers You do realize this piece is not written by Peter King, right?

MalteseFalcon5
MalteseFalcon5

@Matthew W This is a poor critique of a head coach. First off, his record is above.500 as a head coach WITH having Mark Sanchez (arguably a bottom 5 QB in the NFL over the last 4 years). That's not impressive? You don't think if they inserted just an AVERAGE QB in there, his record wouldn't be even more impressive? So, let me understand something. He rides a stout defense (#1, #3 in the NFL during that time) and 'decent' running game (#1 and #5 in the NFL at that time) into the playoffs and that isn't somehow indicative of good coaching? Right, got it. 

TitanTuttle
TitanTuttle

@VearlyC.EvansSr. I say go for it, but there's a reason the Bills & the Packers cut him in PreSeason . . . and look who they each kept as backups instead!  If he can keep his mouth shut, then he could be low-risk, but look at all the uncomfortable moments he caused Andy Reid as a result of his "Dream Team" comment!  High-reward??  Of course, there is always the possibility of "high-reward", but the likelihood of it in his case is very slim.  I mean, there's also the chance of Jim Bob Cooter making a comeback at QB too . . .

Mike26
Mike26

@VearlyC.EvansSr. Vince was a cancerous tumor that got removed from the Titans by the King of Mediocrity - and that's saying something considering all the tuurds and dirty players that Fisher has let run free throughout his career.

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