Letdowns, New Leases and Late-Night Football

The quarterback market will be rich next May.

(Still can’t believe I’m typing a reference to the NFL draft in “next May.” It’s too late, people.)

The other day at The MMQB, our college football guru, Andy Staples, did his weekly list of the top 50 draft prospects. He had nine quarterbacks rated among his top 32 picks. When I asked Staples to do this list weekly during the college season, I told him to put underclass players in if he thinks they’ll be declaring for the draft. Thus Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, a junior, in. Thus UCLA redshirt sophomore Brett Hundley, out. Staples’ gut tells him Bridgewater comes out and Hundley stays in school.

So I asked a veteran road scout who has been out this fall looking at quarterbacks—his team will be in the market for one in the 2014 draft—what he thought of us having nine quarterbacks, from Bridgewater at No. 1 to Fresno State senior Derek Carr (brother of David) No. 31.

“It would not surprise me when we make our board if we have nine quarterbacks with first-round grades,’’ he said. “Not at all. Obviously, that depends on which underclassmen declare, and you hear things out there. But I could see it.’’

Down Goes Clowney

Each week, Andy Staples breaks down the top 50 prospects available for the NFL draft. Last week, he did something he never thought he’d do. See what it is.

That doesn’t mean nine quarterbacks will go in the first round, obviously. That won’t happen. But the big numbers at quarterback, assuming players like Manziel and Bridgewater and Oregon redshirt soph Marcus Mariota do come out, could be very good for teams like Minnesota and Oakland. The Vikings and Raiders could exit 2013 doubting Christian Ponder/Josh Freeman (and Freeman could want to play elsewhere) and Terrelle Pryor as their long-term quarterback answers—but they may not be ready to pull the plug on them for good. The market might be so good that teams thought not to be in the market (Philadelphia, Dallas, Denver, Cincinnati and Houston, for example) could see a highly ranked guy on their board sitting there in the third round and think he’s just too good a player to pass up.

This road scout said the most intriguing prospect he’d seen this season was 6-5, 235-pound LSU quarterback Zach Mettenberger, who he said has improved a lot under new offensive Cam Cameron.

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And so you want to be a Hall of Fame voter …

Well, you can’t. But I’ve got the next-best idea: Have some input into the system of electing Hall of Fame players.

The 46 voters for the Hall have until Nov. 1 to cull the list of 126 modern-era candidates to 25. When the 126-person list is cut to 25, Hall voters will then submit their votes for the final 15, and those 15 finalists will be considered for election at the 2014 selection meeting in New York on Feb. 1.

This week, The MMQB will give 10 of you a chance to make your best case for a player you believe belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Nominate and support your favorite candidate in short, 250-word essays, and we’ll run the best ones Friday on The MMQB.

The list of nominees:

Quarterbacks—Drew Bledsoe, Randall Cunningham, Doug Flutie, Trent Green, Steve McNair, Phil Simms.

Instructions

1. Pick one of the 126 nominees to the left (one entry per reader), write a supporting mini-essay of no more than 250 words telling us why the candidate should be in the Hall of Fame, and email it to us at talkback@themmqb.com by Wednesday at 7 p.m. ET.


2. Our staff will read the nominations, and the 10 best will be used on Friday in a story on our website. No guarantees, but I hope the other 45 voters will read the 10 nominations and consider your arguments.


3. The 10 writers whose 250-word nominations are chosen for publication will get a T-shirt from The MMQB like the one seen on our Training Camp Tour . So be sure to include your postal address and T-shirt size in your email.

Running backs—Shaun Alexander, Ottis Anderson, Tiki Barber, Jerome Bettis, Larry Centers, Roger Craig, Stephen Davis, Terrell Davis, Warrick Dunn, Eddie George, Priest Holmes, Dave Meggett, Eric Metcalf, Herschel Walker, Ricky Watters.

Wide receivers—Tim Brown, Gary Clark, Mark Clayton, Henry Ellard, Marvin Harrison, Keyshawn Johnson, Keenan McCardell, Andre Reed, Sterling Sharpe, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith.

Tight end—Mark Bavaro.

Offensive linemen—Willie Anderson, Tony Boselli, Lomas Brown, Jim Covert, Jay HIlgenberg, Chris Hinton, Kent Hull, Joe Jacoby, Walter Jones, Mike Kenn, Jim Lachey, Tom Nalen, Nate Newton, Don Mosebar, Will Shields, Steve Wisniewski.

Defensive linemen—Jerome Brown, Charles Haley, Ed “Too Tall” Jones, Dexter Manley, Charles Mann, Steve McMichael, Fred Smerlas, Michael Strahan, Ted Washington, Bryant Young.

Linebackers—Cornelius Bennett, Derrick Brooks, Tedy Bruschi, Kevin Greene, Ken Harvey, Clay Matthews, Willie McGinest, Karl Mecklenburg, Sam Mills, Darryl Talley, Zach Thomas.

Defensive backs—Eric Allen, Steve Atwater, Joey Browner, LeRoy Butler, Rodney Harrison, Albert Lewis, John Lynch, Sam Madison, Patrick Surtain, Troy Vincent, Everson Walls, Aeneas Williams, Darren Woodson.

Kicker/punter—Morten Andersen, Gary Anderson, Sean Landeta, Nick Lowery.

Special teams players—Brian Mitchell, Steve Tasker.

Coaches—Bill Arnsparger, Don Coryell, Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy, Tom Flores, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren, Jimmy Johnson, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Richie Petitbon, Dan Reeves, Lou Saban, Marty Schottenheimer, Clark Shaughnessy, Dick Vermeil.

Contributors—Bud Adams, Bobby Beathard, Gil Brandt, Leo Carlin, Red Cashion, Jack Kent Cooke, Otho Davis, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., Ron Gibbs, Jerry Jones, Eddie Kotal, Robert Kraft, Elmer Lyden, Art McNally, Art Modell, Bill Polian, Steve Sabol, Paul Tagliabue, Jim Tunney, Ron Wolf, George Young.

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The League of Denial hits the NFL hard this week.

With the book League of Denial: The NFL, Concussions and the Battle for Truth (Crown Archetype) coming out Tuesday, and the PBS documentary of the same name set to air Tuesday from 9-11 p.m., the subject will be hot. Authors, brothers and ESPN reporters Steve Fainaru and Mark Fainaru-Wada claim the league “went to war against science,” knocking the studies of brain researchers who said the league was belittling their work. I spoke to the authors Thursday.

The MMQB: What was your reaction when ESPN suddenly parted with PBS on the documentary?

(Erick W. Rasco/SI)
(Erick W. Rasco/SI)

Steve: We were as surprised as everybody. We got a call from our editors telling us that this decision had been made to pull out of the partnership. A lot of it didn’t really make much sense to us. The partnership was going so well. A lot of the reporting had already been published in ESPN in some form. That said, I mean, Mark and I were both obviously disappointed, particularly with the implication that the NFL got involved and put pressure on the network. But I think our position has been that the journalism piece did not change. The book is coming out Tuesday, and it’s totally intact. The film is the same film that would have been made if ESPN didn’t pull out.

Mark: The series of events that happened would be disappointing to any journalist. It was really frustrating for us because we had a phenomenal relationship with Frontline for those 15 months and produced a lot of stuff we were really proud of.

The MMQB: Do you believe the NFL told your bosses to lay off?

Steve: Honestly, I don’t think we know. I don’t think either of us would be surprised at all, because they never cooperated; they wouldn’t make anyone available for either the book or the film.

The MMQB: It sounds like ESPN’s name is going to be off the film, but everything remained the same with your support, contribution and reporting to the show?

Both: Exactly.

The MMQB: So what do you believe the league knew and when did they know it?

Steve: Starting in about 1999, 2000, nearly two dozen scientists went to attack this issue of football and the connection to long-term brain damage. Those neuroscientists went to the NFL in various forms, some of them directly, some of them through publishing their research, to issue a series of warnings. The league’s response was to try to discredit the neuroscientists and put forward its own research, which pretty much promoted a completely contradictory narrative: that concussions were minor injuries, and NFL players were impervious to brain damage. And that sort of systematic effort continued up until basically 2010 when, under pressure from Congress, the NFL completely reversed itself and basically embraced the same people who had been pushing for these other ideas in recent years.

The MMQB: How culpable do you believe former commissioner Paul Tagliabue is?

Mark: I don’t know from a legal standpoint, but … he did not confront the issue until 1999, at least in a serious way … And what you’ve got is the commissioner of the time denying that this is a serious issue for the league. He’s trotting out a statistic about maybe one concussion every three games, or something like that. And then saying this is not about football and the dangers of brain trauma. And then he creates a committee, and the head of the committee is a rheumatologist who later becomes his physician, a guy who has zero background in research on concussions or brain damage or a specialist in that area. So we certainly don’t know what was inside Tagliabue’s head when he made these decisions, but I think our goal is to lay out what we think his mindset was at the time, based off his public statements and based off his creation of that committee. One thing we laid out in the book was the shock from researchers in the field based off this committee being put together.

What you’ve got is the commissioner of the time denying that this is a serious issue for the league. [Paul Tagliabue] is trotting out a statistic about maybe one concussion every three games, or something like that.

The MMQB: What do you think about Roger Goodell’s role?

Steve: I think that he’s certainly been more proactive than Tagliabue on this issue. At the same time, there was a meeting in Chicago in 2007. It was billed as a concussion summit. Goodell was there, and he invited all of these medical personnel to sit in an amphitheater and discuss the issue. They also invited independent scientists who had a completely alternative view than the NFL had at the time. That meeting turned into a complete fiasco. They showed slides of brain tissue of deceased players who had been diagnosed with CTE, and the head of the committee essentially mocked the findings. … It’s a mixed bag. Goodell is certainly more proactive. People who have met with him, they believe his heart is in the right place. He’s really trying to implement change. At the same time, it’s taking him some time to get there.

The MMQB: How do you think the league handles concussions on the field today?

Mark: The league should be this way [with independent neurologists involved]. The league has so much money and resources, it should be providing the best care to its players and seems to be at that place in the reality of how to treat players on game day and deal with that issue. I think the real lingering question for the league is not, ‘Are they doing everything they possibly can on game day to deal with this?’ But it’s the question being put forth by folks at Boston University: ‘The repetitious nature of the sport, especially from the line of scrimmage, is that inherently exposing to the kinds of damage we’re seeing down the road?’ When you look at the CTE cases, a huge preponderance of those cases are offensive and defensive linemen. And the argument is because those guys are being exposed on every single play to the repetitious nature of hitting. Is there really a way to legislate that out of the game? I’m not sure there is. I love the sport, and one of the things people love about it is that it’s an inherently violent sport. Whether you can really change that, at the core, or whether you really want to, beside legislating out the big, huge hits everyone talks about, I’m not sure that’s really possible. … We love the sport. This was never anything for us about wanting to kill football or those kinds of things that people would try to suggest. We wanted to write a book that would inform people what was going on.

The MMQB: Should football exist?

Steve: Since I have season-tickets for the 49ers, I hope so. I don’t mean to be flippant about it. But we love the sport. I played the sport in high school, and that was a major life experience for me. I don’t think in any way would we want to minimize that. It is a game, but it is a big part of our culture. At the same time, these are real issues.

We love the sport. This was never anything for us about wanting to kill football or those kinds of things that people would try to suggest. We wanted to write a book that would inform people what was going on.

Mark: To me, the answer is a simple [yes]. We love the sport. I think it’s more about people now being as informed as they can possibly be and making decisions because of that. I think the issue previously for NFL players was the argument that yes, they knew their knees and their hips and their shoulders or whatever could be shredded, but they weren’t necessarily in tune with the idea that they could get brain damage. Well, now it’s out there, and there’s a clear knowledge that it’s a possibility, and guys are going to make decisions. It’s more about being as informed as you can be and people can make those decisions, whether it’s at the NFL level or Pop Warner level or whatever. But I would never be as presumptuous as to say it shouldn’t exist. It’s a big part of our culture.

Steve: Also, there are these comparisons to Big Tobacco. But football isn’t smoking. It is firmly established in the last 75 years that smoking can kill. Football is not that. It’s a great sport, a uniquely American sport. Ten million people watched the finale of Breaking Bad. A hundred million people watch the Super Bowl every year. This is something that we, as a country, cherish.

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ArnoldNewman
ArnoldNewman

The 10% of native Americans who are bitching about "Redskins" should lose all their benefits.  Then they'll have something real to complain about.

gary41
gary41

We're real tired of reading about the Redskins name change.  You might like to know 3 out of 4 fans favor keeping the same name, so you might want to get off the political thing and get on with the business of football......

BAYOURANCH
BAYOURANCH

Atlanta just fell out of your 15 spot

captainfuzzypants
captainfuzzypants

the problem isn't "a health-care law some of the politicians don’t like,"   It's a law that half of them don't like, and that half of america doesn't like.  if it was just some, implying a few, then they wouldn't be stuck passing their next horribly destructive "budget".  We didn't get to debate it when it was being forced on us, and we don't get to debate it now i guess.  All or nothing: the new "negotiation"

ChiBears85
ChiBears85

You all can let Romo off the hook all you want, but as Herm Edwards famously said: "THE POINT IS TO WIN THE GAME!"  This game is about wins and losses, and if you can't finish, you're going nowhere.

Richard Long
Richard Long

As a Denver fan, I think I would have preferred to face any other QB in the league other than Romo on Sunday.  Not that he plays like that every week, but on Sunday, he was every bit as good as Manning.  Denver's D is not that bad.  When you have a line that protects like the Cowboys did and a QB make the decisions and deliver the ball as Romo did, there isn't much you can do to stop him.  Sure he threw a pick, but so did Manning.  Romo just threw his with 2 minutes to go. 

retro-grouch
retro-grouch

Romo played a great game for 58 minutes.  Here’s the rub.

Situational awareness 101: final possessions in a tied game have an extremely high value.  It doesn’t matter whether the score is 48-48 or 3-3, except in the high scoring game with tired DBs the QB should have a reasonable expectation that patience and mobility will be rewarded by open targets.   The win probability needle is way over to the team with their offense on the field and execution is determinative.

Throwing from a stale pocket with blocking traffic in front of him Romo opted for a tight window with a good cover LB tight on his target rather than taking the vastly wide open checkdown to his RB.   His foot contacted his own lineman as he stepped up and that's why you don't force a tight window from a busy pocket.

It was one bad play by a QB who had dozens of good plays under his belt but situational awareness and keeping clean in the pocket are part of the job description.

DennyCrane
DennyCrane

" to protest a health-care law some of the politicians don’t like"

Stop lying Peter. When the law was voted in not a single Republican voted for it because their constituents didn't want them to. That means millions of conservatives didn't want ACA. A number of Democrat politicians had to be bribed by their OWN PARTY to vote for it because, without the sweetner their millions of constituents didn't want the ACA.

Many unions and friends of Obama have opted out of the ACA because they don't like it and finally, Obama, Pelosi, and every member of Congress and their staffs have opted out of it because they don't like ACA.

Please stop being so stupid and continuing the lie that "only politicians" don't want the ACA because that's demonstrably not true. Even the very persons who voted for it don't want it.

IvanAJagerbomb
IvanAJagerbomb

Newsflash Peter -- Tony Dungy is not a respective analyst by the fans.. he is a torture to listen to and focuses too much on not enough black QBs or coaches.... and nonsense like the Redskins name change

2001mark
2001mark

Romo is fair game.  If they win (even if they had to eke) out the W v Denver, it would've been headlines the league over 'Romo finally bags a big one!'

Well, he didn't, so that makes it not on him?  

DaveBolt
DaveBolt

TONY (CLAP CLAP) CHOKER (CLAP CLAP). It's like clock work. Throw him more money, Jerry!

Gregory2
Gregory2

Wow, I just realized that the Sports Illustrated writer does not name the Redskins anymore.  Any comments on the Fighting Irish?  That is much more derogatory than the Redskins.  Blackhawks? Braves?  Why does he not have a problem with the Cowboys?  After all, they stole land from the Redskins, I mean the Indians, I mean the Native Americans, I mean the First Nation peoples.  Buffalo Bills, who are named after Buffalo Bill Cody should be a major concern for this retard, after all, he was an Indian Fighter, and PETA should be incensed since he murdered over 4000 bison!

Seriously, these PC morons should really concentrate on what they think they know, and that is sports, and not what I know they don't know, and that is politics.

johnc596
johnc596

"Same ol' Romo" means great performance until the clutch and then fail.  How does that not fit?  It's a real hoot to watch the Cowboys refuse to run with only one linebacker in the middle.  How can a team with the collection of coaches they have be so strategy-challenged?


LeBP
LeBP

Well Peter--guess Atlanta did not enjoy hosting a team from New Jersey--Time to stop hating the Jets and admit the Team is well coached.

tjw_ia
tjw_ia

Many good comments. Disclosure...not a DCowboys fan.

re: Romo's turnover at the end...it was a hold by that linebacker w/ his left arm. It slowed the TE running his route and sling shotted the LB into position. The pompous one's will believe whatever they want to believe...

friendly--neighborhood--scrawler
friendly--neighborhood--scrawler

After the Cowboy's game i noticed the same typical media trash reporting, "blame the QB"

I looked at the scoreboard saw more than 45 points by a Cowboys offense...  enough said !!!

OK
OK

Who I Like Tonight

Atlanta 20, New York Jets 15. The Falcons have ruled out Steven Jackson (hamstring) for the third straight game; with the bye next week, that means he’ll be able to give the hammy 34 days to feel right, before Atlanta faces Tampa Bay coming out of the break. The Falcons should be able to beat the turnover-prone Jets without Jackson and with a gimpy Roddy White (who might have 2011 Falcons practice-squad cornerback Darrin Walls covering him in the depleted New York secondary), but the heat is on coach Mike Smith and quarterback Matt Ryan here. A loss to the Jets would be disastrous, obviously.

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Smith, Folk lead New York Jets past Falcons 30-28Associated Press

ATLANTA -- Nick Folk kicked a 43-yard field goal on the final play of the game and the New York Jets handed struggling Atlanta its third straight loss, beating the Falcons 30-28 on Monday night.

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Right again, Peter. Of course, the Falcons' loss to the Jets makes you look like God's Own Idiot, too.

cozmikrebl
cozmikrebl

As a Bengals fan, even I find it baffling as to how you could not place the Browns in your "Fine 15" the last 2 weeks. Sure Hoyer going down hurts (wait did you even mention him at all?)..but still, they have played better than a few other teams you have on there. 

Also, the rain didn't have anything to do with the Bengals beating the Pats yesterday. It rained for like 5 minutes. The Bengals D were in Brady's face all day. And that my friend is how you beat these "elite quarterbacks". Pressure

posmoo
posmoo

You lucky Native Americans, Peter King has given you his loving, paternalistic, probably subconscious, but nonetheless startlingly racist embrace. 

Peter King knows what you apparently simply can't comprehended, my fellow citizens of Native American ancestry: But don't worry about these deficiencies he finds in your culture, he's sworn to protect you from what he thinks you just can't grasp or are too disorganized to do anything about.

Peter King is what smug self-righteous paternalistic racism looks like.

He disregards the minority opinion, because in fact the extent to which he cares about it is for use as multicultural prop to proclaim himself the hero. Ask yourself, in the past has Peter King done one thing to bring attention to help Native Americans with the myriad problems affecting the community? Of course not.

Peter King is what smug self-righteous paternalistic racism looks like, and it is disgusting.

JimCody
JimCody

Yet another attempt by Peter King to manufacture phony momentum to get the Redskins name changed. Enough already. You're getting worse than Silver and Florio.

OK
OK

The book, League of Denial: The NFL, Concussions and the Battle for Truth, and accompanying PBS Frontline documentary about the NFL's questionable history of dealing with head injuries and concussions both come out on Tuesday.

Peter King, ever-vigilant NFL Spin Doctor, buries his brief interview with the book's authors on the second page of this MMQB.

Peter King, ever-eager to fill the NFL HQ's Jimmy Roberts-like needs, wants, and offshore desires, BURIES the decision by ESPN's bosses to pull out of their years of work with the authors and PBS.

Peter King is hiding this story, hoping the MMQB reader will simply ignore it and rush to the Fine Fifteen.

The questions are, why is Peter King hiding this story? Who's paying Peter King to hide the story? How much is Peter King getting to hide the story.

OK
OK

The NFL's Chief Spin Doctor picks the White Reverend Tebow over the Non-White Josh Freeman.

Quite telling...and the product of living in two of America's Most Racist Non-Dixie Cities, Cincinnati and Boston.

Fins
Fins

Atlanta fine 15...ha ha. 

bobinpowell
bobinpowell

"Andre Smith: You’re letting a free-agent rookie from Bowling Green, Chris Jones, beat you on the inside to sack Andy Dalton?"

If Jones was good enough to make his team and to be playing in this game, what difference does it make where he went to college?  Geez, that's unsportsmanlike conduct at best--and just plain snarky at worst.

joeshine730
joeshine730

Well Kubiak will be fired in Houston along with his QB. About time. Josh McDaniels is destroying the Patriots.

ImmaFubared
ImmaFubared

Romo self destructed again as I knew he would. I gave him a lot of slack, as Dallas has, but last year towards the end with the playoffs on the line he flubbed it all up. I decided that this year he better produce or else. He screwed up the whole season last night. He is not the leader that will take this team to the playoffs. 

sbhall52
sbhall52

So you had to watch a game "in the early morning" back there on the least coast? My heart bleeds. But think about this: How many games played in the Eastern Time Zone end after midnight Eastern Time? A LOT, that's how many. How many games played in the Mountain and Pacific time zones end after midnight local time? NONE. East Coast bias, much? Usually, Peter, I'm on your side. This time, you're way off base, and way over the top. GET OVER IT.

(Also, Oakland Raiders? Sue the NFL so you can play in Santa Clara, too.)

gary7
gary7

Go back to trying to be a wannabe GM and leave the REDSKINS name alone.  After Rick Riley's article, all you Political Correct Zombie Sheep need to just go away, you are not the smartest kids in the class, your not even aloud in the room.


BabylonDon
BabylonDon

@captainfuzzypants This isn't the space for you to prove you don't understand politics, it's the space for you to prove you don't understand sports.

ginge159
ginge159

@2001mark No, it wouldn't. Romo bags plenty of games like that. It's just as soon as the game is over, the narrative becomes that it wasn't a big game.

Sdwalt
Sdwalt

@OK So he got the score wrong on a football game, Everyone I know picked Atlanta to win. I gotta wonder if God really calls someone a idiot over a football game.

johnc596
johnc596

@posmoo You're moving into Miley Cyrus territory here on the stupid-meter.  She makes money off her stupid - what do you think you're getting from this other than general disdain?

mike202
mike202

@JimCody Enough of the White Guilt.  STop telling people what should offend them.  Show me a poll where 50% of Indians find the name offensive and I will agree with you.  

Yieldman
Yieldman

@OK Peter King is "hiding" the story?  Did you read the part where ESPN removed themselves as a partner?

mike202
mike202

@OK I didn't ignore it because it was on page 2 but because it is boring.   If you don't want to get buried alive don't work in the mine.

drudown
drudown

@epicfailureismymiddlename

You mean the President that is SAVING the US taxpayers TRILLIONS over the next hundred years via Obamacare is "unpopular" compared to his GOP predecessor that decided to "give" TRILLIONS to GOP campaign contributors by selling Iraq to the People and Congress under false pretenses? I find your unfounded "insult" humorous insofar that, since President Obama has been in office, his agendas have led to (1) a stronger US dollar; (2) a lower deficit; (3) extricating ourselves from fiscally imprudent GOP occupations abroad; and (4) saving the auto industry.

Perhaps you'd like to humor me with specifics as to how the GOP agenda of (1) deregulating markets; (2) starving the State of revenue; and (3) instituting wars based on false pretenses served the People in better, more fiscally prudent ways? Then you can reconcile the "insult" that the GOP's budgetary tactics place upon democracy. Remember when W was prating on and on about how "freedom" and "democracy" must prevail in the world? I guess the GOP gets to follow the laws that serve their campaign contributors and, well, hold the entire Nation hostage if their Unconstitutional demands to "exact concessions" from  federal law (upheld by the Supreme Court) aren't met in similarly Unconstitutional ways? Spare me your pathetic insults. Be a man and speak to the merits of policy.

Last time I checked, Iraq costs over $ 4 trillion.Taken to its illogical conclusion, your ilk conspicuously omit the fact the the Bush Tax Cuts did NOT lead to a stronger US Economy. "Trickle Down" Economics is a farce. Massive borrowing just leads to (1) a WEAKER US dollar and (2) budgetary scare tactics.

Your "leaders" refuse to even follow the law. 

Richard Long
Richard Long

@ImmaFubared I'm a Denver fan and I found myself wishing that it were any other QB other than Romo over there playing.  For 58 minutes, he made every correct read, moved in the pocket and delivered the ball in perfect spots. Trust me, Denver's defense and the secondary are not that bad.  Between the line giving him time and Romo playing all world, I was worried.

Yieldman
Yieldman

@ImmaFubared Screwed up the whole season by keeping his team in the game for the first 58 minutes of a game in which NOONE had picked Dallas?  Seriously?

Sdwalt
Sdwalt

@ImmaFubared I am not a Dallas fan, but I am pretty sure it was not Romo who screwed that game up.

BobLang
BobLang

@ImmaFubared Have you ever watched a football game? How about calling out the defense that didn't generate a pass rush. At all. Or stop Manning all day. No, you call out someone that was responsible for keeping his team from getting blown out and racking up over 500 yards passing, 5 TDs. 

Self destructive? There isn't another QB in the league that would have had Dallas within 10 points yesterday. Not one. 

josef918
josef918

@Sdwalt @OK Not an idiot, but now it does look kind of foolish to have included a struggling 1-3 team in the fine fifteen.  Not sure why we don't wait on Tuesday morning for that kind of ranking, after all the games shake out?  I think I personally would have had the Browns knock Atlanta off that list even yesterday.

Gregory2
Gregory2

@drudown @epicfailureismymiddlename 

Stronger dollar?  The only reason the dollar isn't weaker because of QE Infinity is because the Euro has been debased by their own QE's.  Only since he has become president has there been a downgrade and talk of replacing the dollar as the reserve currency.

The only reason there is a lower deficit FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR is because the Republicans stuck to their beliefs and held the president to HIS promise and idea of a sequester.  This deficit is STILL HIGHER than any under GWB.  This president had deficits in the TRILLIONS, more than double than any GWB had.

The Democrats are the ones who have the spending/borrowing problem. 

Please realize you have been brainwashed, get yourself to a deprogramming place before you are lost forever.

Richard Long
Richard Long

@BobLang @ImmaFubared Few QBs outplay Manning and on Sunday, Romo did.  Manning's pick was just as costly to Denver.  It just came earlier in the 4th. 

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