Matthew Stafford Comes of Age

Ten Things I Think I Think

1. I think this is what I liked about Week 8:

a. Miami tight end Charles Clay, making the Dolphins forget about the damaging loss of Dustin Keller in the preseason. Joe Philbin’s splitting him wide, playing him tight to the formation, and leaning on his versatility to be a good intermediate target for Ryan Tannehill.

b. Brandon Myers, doing his part to make the Giants forget about the tight end who got away, Martellus Bennett.

c. A 93-yard read-option keeper by Terrelle Pryor? With no Steeler taking him? What a run—through the heart of a once-dominant D.

d. Take those trade rumors and stuff ‘em, Josh Gordon says with his play every week.

e. Excellent legal use of the pick by Jason Campbell throwing to Gordon late in the half. That’s smart football, for a big gain.

f. Thad Lewis, who is very tough.

g. Look at that lunging touchdown catch by Dexter McCluster. What a talent he is, and he’s being used perfectly as an everything back by Andy Reid.

h. Kevin Ogletree, who ran 70 yards to chase down Sean Lee on the Cowboys.

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2. I think this is what I didn’t like about Week 8:

a. Tom Brady, throwing behind Rob Gronkowski and getting picked by cornerback Dimitri Patterson (a very good Jeff Ireland offseason pickup), leading to Miami’s first touchdown. 

b. Almost on cue, a few seconds later, Mike Vick handing the Giants an early pick with a lollygagged pass.

c. Uh, Jags? You’ve got to cover No. 49 in white there, Bruce Miller for the Niners, lined up wide right. He counts.

d. Garrett Hartley, doinking a makeable field goal on the Saints’ first drive.

e. The normally accurate Alex Smith, overthrowing a wide-open Anthony Fasano in the end zone, forcing Kansas City to settle for a field goal in the first quarter against Cleveland.

f. Geez, Tom Brady: It’s so bad you’re throwing to Rob Gronkowski in triple coverage? The good side: Officials gave the Patriots a gift defensive pass interference call on the play.

g. Throw it away when you’re under duress, Matt Barkley.

h. The Jags are one heck of an ambassadorial group for the league over in England, eh?

i. I do believe I have never seen a snap as bad as Zak DeOssie’s fourth-quarter snap. It was so bad it was out of the FOX replay camera’s view. That thing had to be 12 feet over Steve Weatherford’s head, and it handed Philadelphia its only offense.

j. Why, oh why, Chip Kelly, when you’re one score behind with four minutes to go, your defense playing well and three timeouts left do you onside kick?

k. Bad day for Davone Bess, with the muffed punt and the drop on the last Cleveland play of the game.

l. Reggie Bush did recover, but this play could have haunted the Lions had they lost to Dallas: Five minutes into the third quarter, trailing Dallas 10-7, Bush ran left and was confronted by a free-agent rookie safety, Jeff Heath. Bush moved the ball to his left hand, carrying it like the proverbial loaf of bread, and tried to stiff-arm Heath. For some reason, instead of tucking the ball under his left arm, he left it out there, Heath knocked it free, and Dallas recovered.

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3. I think I’m still trying to figure out why the illegal bat call in the Miami-New England game was so controversial. It’s like the illegal pushing call last week in the Pats-Jets game: You may not like the rule. You may think it has no place in the game. But when you see it—unless you’re discriminating between penalties, or don’t think a penalty should be called at a vital time of the game because it’s a vital time of the game (which is wrong, by the way)—it’s got to be called. Now, the timing of the call killed Miami Sunday in Foxboro. The Dolphins were down 20-17 with nine minutes left in the game, with New England driving for insurance points. Tom Brady was strip-sacked, the ball fluttered loose, and Miami defensive lineman Olivier Vernon dove for the ball and struck it with his hand toward the New England goal line. The ball bounced back to the Miami 45, where Patriots tackle Nate Solder recovered. It would have been 3rd-and-29 from the 45, well out of field-goal range. But the officials threw a flag. “Illegal bat,’’ they ruled. Instead of 3rd-and-29 from the Miami 45, it was 1st-and-10 from the Miami 13. Here’s the rule, from the same NFL rule book I quoted last week: “It is an illegal bat if (a) a player of either team bats or punches a loose ball in the field of play toward his opponent’s goal line … Penalty: For illegally batting or punching the ball, loss of 10 yards … If it is a foul by the defense, it is an automatic first down.’’

4. I think the problem with yakking about the rules, or one team getting an edge, or the league favoring some team, is that when you read the exact wording of the rule in question, it usually clarifies exactly what call needs to be made. In this case, watch the replay of Vernon slapping/pushing the ball toward the New England goal. It’s pretty clear. Is the penalty onerous? In this case, certainly. But it’s a rule.

5. I think you’re not going to see more effort on any play this season than on Adrian Peterson’s eight-yard bullish touchdown run at the end of the second quarter in the Sunday night game. Show that one to your high-school backs, coaches. The man will not be denied.

6. I think for a fully healthy Peterson to have 36 carries in the last three weeks, with Minnesota struggling so much at quarterback, is absurd.

Talk Back

Have a question or comment for Peter? Email him at talkback@themmqb.com and it might be included in Tuesday's mailbag.

7. I think there are so many teams that could use Cleveland wideout Josh Gordon, so many receiver-needy contenders, and with the trade deadline coming Tuesday, he’s the most obvious candidate to be moved. Gordon, who is signed through 2014, will cost an acquiring team only $437,000 for the rest of the season (as opposed to, say, looming free-agent defensive end Jared Allen, who would cost $7.57 million to a team for the last nine weeks of the year). I realize Gordon could be a positive substance test away from a lengthy suspension, but if I’m the Patriots, and I still have my full load of 2014 picks, I’d offer Cleveland a fourth-round pick that could conditionally upgrade to a third- depending on performance and try to get Gordon.

8. I think the Eagles have to be the disappointment of the season. The offense in particular. They do nothing well. In the last two weeks they’ve had 25 drives in two home games, against the Cowboys and Giants … and scored one field goal and no offensive touchdowns. A Chip Kelly team first and foremost has to have consistency and efficiency at quarterback, and Philadelphia hasn’t had that all season. Which is why I think Michael Vick isn’t back next year, and why I think Kelly probably drafts a quarterback high. The Eagles, by the way, have lost 10 straight at home, by an average of 9.9 points per game.

raiders-coach9. I think Oakland defensive coordinator Jason Tarver doesn’t want to be best known for flipping his middle finger at the officials after a bad call, but in this media world, unfamous coaches become famous for things like that, and that’s going to be how people remember Tarver. For now. If that’s not a deterrent to future misdeeds for a coach with a bright future, I don’t know what is.

10. I think these are my non-football thoughts of the week:

a. No more walks on the wild side for Lou Reed, who died Sunday at 71. Loved his music.

b. Memo to Darren Rovell (said with slight annoyance): The Riddell helmet/NFL divorce you wrote about, a story that was written by Jenny Vrentas of The MMQB on TheMMQB.com last Tuesday, was not written on SI.com, as you reported. It’s The MMQB.

c. Nothing against SI.com; I love SI.com. This column runs on SI.com at well as The MMQB. But the story was not written on SI.com.

d. Thanks, Florence and the Machine, for “Shake It Out.” That’s my song of the week.

e. And Macklemore … I actually have listened to a few of his songs, and he’s pretty incredible. Is there anyone who can talk faster and make some sense?

f. So … Game 3 of the World Series ends on the first walkoff obstruction call in Series history. Game 4 of the World Series ends on the first walkoff pickoff in Series history. That’s weird.

g. So … the Red Sox have lost two games in the World Series on errant throws trying to catch oncoming runners at third base. That is particularly and peculiarly hurtful.

h. The obstruction call (he said through gritted teeth), though a stupid rule because umpires cannot use interpretation, was called correctly to end Game 3.

i. Yadier Molina and Dustin Pedroia are such superior defenders. What a play Pedroia made, the diving stop and throw to home to start the weird walkoff obstruction play.

j. Quote of the Series, from Jonny Gomes to Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times, concerning the fact that he was only in the lineup Sunday night because Shane Victorino’s back tightened up and forced him to the bench, giving Gomes the chance to hit the game-winning three-run home run: “I had to ‘Tonya Harding’ Victorino.”

k. Google or Bing “Tonya Harding” if that one slips past you.

l. It’s only four games, but David Ortiz is batting .727 in the Series, the rest of the Red Sox .138.

m. Coffeenerdness: Had a good latte with strong espresso from an artful barista at Flat Black Coffee Company in Boston’s Financial District Friday. Recommended.

n. Beernerdness: Also had the good fortune to be at Game 2 of the Series on Thursday, and was nearly as lucky to be back in my favorite old neighborhood restaurant Picco, in Boston’s South End. Very good beer menu. Tried the Star Island Single, a Belgian ale from Smuttynose in New Hampshire, and it was almost like a light ale. Okay, and eminently drinkable, but not memorable.

Who I Like Tonight

Seattle 33, St. Louis 10. Bet you thought I’d say, “Boston 4, St. Louis 3,” didn’t you? I don’t think there’s much chance the Seahawks will pull a no-show tonight. That’s not the way they’re wired. Recall, for a moment, the Richard Sherman column on The MMQB the week before Seattle faced downtrodden Jacksonville. Wrote Sherman (with an eye on any team that is downtrodden):

“I can still remember my worst event in track at Stanford before I left the sport as a sophomore: the 110-meter hurdles. It was a difficult transition, going from the fluidity of football movements to the repetitions of the hurdles. But I do remember my personal best time—14.4 seconds. I don’t remember where I was, or who I was running against, but I’ll never forget the time. The mindset must be the same, whether you’re covering Anquan Boldin or a Jaguars rookie. That’s the way we look at football games. We remember two things: the final score, and whether we met our defensive goals. No matter who we play, we want to accomplish certain things in the red zone, certain things on third down and achieve a certain number of turnovers. It doesn’t matter if I’m playing against Boldin, Cecil Shorts or Andre Johnson—when I go up there, I want to dominate whoever is in front of me.” In other words, beware Kellen Clemens.

The Adieu Haiku

I have always thought
the home for illegal bats
was in the belfry.

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365 comments
samantha.reinsel35
samantha.reinsel35

Hey Queenie,

Eagles the biggest disappointment....in your face, you're missing too many of your so-called expert opinionated statements.

Maybe it's time to hang up your pen and paper!!!!

BronzeBomber
BronzeBomber

Offenses are pretty efficient nowadays Peter.  Shouldn't we nerf them as well?

AlDavis
AlDavis

Way off on the field goal and extra point take. Absolutely no reason to make it harder. The Rams miss from 50 last Monday night is a perfect example of a missed field goal costing a team a game. It still happens and even though an extra point is a gimme I still want to see them make it. Gives the team on the short end of the score a chance sometimes, slim, but a chance. Nothing needs to be done. The NFL has already made too many rule changes. Enough is enough.

sterculius65
sterculius65

Dear Peter,

Sorry to rain on your orgy of piling on the Eagles

in MMQB but so many of your claims are not backed

up by the facts (to put it nicely).

For instance...

"I think the Eagles have to be the disappointment

of the season."

Really? Really? Bigger dissapointment than the the

2-5 Falcons coming off a 13-3 season and a Super

Bowl pick by many? Bigger disapointment than the

Steelers? Bigger disapoinment than the

Redskins...?

Fact is most people had the Eagles at best going

8-8 and most not even that. To say they are the

biggest dissapointment is pure drivel. They are

record wise right where most people thought they

would be.

" A Chip Kelly team first and foremost has to have

consistency and efficiency at quarterback, and

Philadelphia hasn’t had that all season"

Again really? Look at the QB ratings by game....

1. Vick 112.6
2. Vick 123.4
3. Vick 49.4
4. vick 83.6
4. Foles 155.2 (garbage time)
5. Foles 114.9, vick 69
6. foles 133.3

Weeks 7 and 8 are disasters of course but weeks

1,2,4,5 and 6 all make your cliam the Eagles

haven't had consistency and efficiency at

quarterback all season clearly absurd.

"Why, oh why, Chip Kelly, when you’re one score

behind with four minutes to go, your defense

playing well and three timeouts left do you onside

kick?"

Agreed but thay had one timeout left, not three.

Again if you are going to criticize at least have

your facts straight.

"The problem in Philadelphia, which is lucky to be

3-5, is Kelly can’t hang his hat on anything in

his offense."

Lucky to be 3-5?

Lets see they have won by margins of 6,15 and 9

points. They have lost by margins of 3,10,32 and

8. I'd say they are pretty much where they should

be but if you want to bring luck in to it then if

they had any they would be closer to 4-4 than 2-6.

It makes me wonder just how much of the Eagles you

have watched this year...

HonoluluBlue
HonoluluBlue

Greatly overlooked stat from the Lions-Cowboys game.   Stafford set the NFL record for fewest games to reach 15,000 yards passing.  Better than.....everybody.  Name your QB.

Stafford haters repeat after me....Joe Montana would have been nothing without Jerry Rice....not tell me how silly you feel.


BeholdTheWolverine
BeholdTheWolverine

I see I'm not the only one getting annoyed at the petulance this column (sorry...business site) is showing.  Just this week alone the Diva-nature about this NOT being SI.com.  Well, that may be true, but I'm pretty sure that's where 99% of your readers read it, and how they associate it, and that they/we/I don't care about any legal distinction between the two.  If you want to be your own, then don't run it on SI.com and start spending the marketing dollars so people know (or care about) the difference.

Second, the Patriots didn't ignore Troy Brown's advice either.  Since the Patriots were never down 24-7 his advice was moot.

Seriously, don't you think the internet is snarky enough as it is without adding to it?  This column (or whatever) is not as enjoyable as it was before this reincarnation.  Harder to follow, harder to read, and all in all less fun and enjoyable.  I may be in the minority, but I don't view this as an improvement.

RayHuggyBearYoung
RayHuggyBearYoung

Thats MMQB.Si.com  Peter.  If you really want your site to be all MMQB  cut away from Si.com.  Its part of your web address and writers can give credit to Si.com on it.

cdawg
cdawg

I am a 9er fan and still think you ranked them too high. I think they should be 5th behind Denver and Seattle along with Indy and KC

2229JEFF
2229JEFF

I have been following your concussion stories with some interest.Not sure but it seems you are missing the obvious problem. Playing a contact sport with a fibreglass helmet and padding must be a factor when combined with such large, powerful athletes.We play a variety of contact sports here in Australia and no rigid padding or helmets are permitted in either of the Rugby codes or Australian Rules football at a professional or amateur level. While we have incidence of concussions they seem to be dealt with in the main well and we do not appear to be suffering the same issues as you are in American Football with respect to retired players.Would there be more or less concussions if the pads and helmets came off ?

Dustin3
Dustin3

meh.... a lot of QB's will have a "coming of age moment" when they play Dallas' defense. Dallas is the only NFL team to allow more than one 400 yard passer so far this season......and they've done it 4 TIMES.

jj55
jj55

Memo to Peter King (said with slight annoyance). The MMQB is a blatant to attempt to "brand" you as SI's answer to Bill Simmons and Grantland. Stop whining, keep writing, and let SI's publicity team position your website as America's gift to football. We readers will ultimately make that call, not you.

BobLang
BobLang

Kickers are making a lot more kicks… more domed stadiums have anything to do with that? Probably can blame it on global warming. 

Also, I don't think you meant to write from the 40-49 yard line. I think you just meant 40-49 yard field goals. From the 40-49 yard line would be 57-66 yard field goals. I have a hard time believing that kickers are making 80 percent of those. 

humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

3. San Francisco (6-2). Five straight wins by an average of 22.6 points. This team’s getting scary. Think of the room to grow for this offense entering the bye: In the last two weeks, the Niners have scored 73 points in two road wins a total of 10 time zones from home … and gotten only 363 yards and one passing touchdown in the process.


the 49ers, third, really?????

how about some context...  since the Niners barely beat the Packers on opening day they've played two winning teams --- they got crushed by both, losing 29-3 at Seattle and losing 27-7 to the Colts in SF..

the Niners five straight win came against St. Louis (3-5) Houston (2-5), Arizona (4-4), Tennesse (3-4), Jacksonville (0-8)... 

are we supposed to be impressed  because the 49ers are blowing out the worst teams in football?  

they haven't beat a team who's over .500 since opening day..

djp9192
djp9192

watching the weekend highlights i think i've never seen worse open field tackling ... arm tackles easily bumped off, or even air swings ... they really need to bring in some tackling coaches from rugby!

beekay31
beekay31

Stafford has come of age?  Is that why he needed 14 receptions and 329 yards from a single WR, one that just happens to be one of the best WRs to ever play the game, to eke out the win?  Look way, way back to 3 weeks ago against GB to see how well Stafford performs without Calvin Johnson.

gaucant
gaucant

How does Jason Garret not call a time out to set his defense. It's a huge play in the game and the defense is spent. Seems like the Cowboys always mismanage the clock and lose winnable games.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

Tom Brady struggles with a bunch of no-name receivers and he gets headline after headline.  Aaron Rodgers does the same thing - and putting teams AWAY, no less - and he doesn't even get a mention this week.  Really?  44 points with Myles White and Jarrett Boykin and Andrew Quarless, and not a single mention?

I get that Peter is a Pats homer and all, but, in the immortal words of the guys on ESPN...

C'Mon, Man!

Mat X
Mat X

No style points in football?  C'mon Peter, you don't know how Division 1-A/F*BS* college football works, do you? :-D

Dale15
Dale15

I am amazed that you are giving so much credit to Stafford and less to the gross negligence of the officials.  On Dallas's last drive they call Tyron Smith (holding) which stopped the clock.  Good call, no problemw with that.  On Stafford's long completion to #18 the I saw stretch jersey HOLDING and.....................sigh, .no call.  Both were critical situations with differing standards of officiating.   Hmmmmm, if the same standard existed from play to play by the officials Stafford's play would be a mute point.  Why don't you point this out instead of glibly latching on to a headline story?!!!

decredico
decredico

pete king is the kid in high school that was always the last one choosen in pick up games ... hes a dolt .. he is nothing more than water carrier for the league spewing propaganda each week for middling minds to suck up ... anyone reading this and for real insight is just about as dumb as king

JPSmall
JPSmall

@sterculius65 I pretty much read this column because, despite all the bluster and unending support of certain players and teams, king gets almost unparalleled access to players and coaches. Add to that the new forum for players to actually write the article, and I'll stick around for a bit, but the new website (difficult to navigate) and pete's old tricks make it easier to miss every week. 

Why.
Why.

@BeholdTheWolverine IF you are in the minority than a lot of others here are too. I have posted this before about the article quality taking a nose dive. I think the mmqb (separate from si.com) has been a horrible idea. 

BrockDakiller
BrockDakiller

@2229JEFF I, as an American, like that idea. If yer nut is not in a shell, yer not as likely to try to crack it. Good thinking there, I think.

Nathan16
Nathan16

I was going to make that point too. Also, artificial turf is much better now than it was 15 years ago. How many kickers slipped on that crap in Texas Stadium when it was wet or cold?

Nathan16
Nathan16

Hush, Peter has a man crush on one-read Kapernick and doesn't want you pointing that out.

noly972
noly972

@djp9192 Or, the NFL could put the players through 'Heads-Up' Football training so that they could learn the proper tackling techniques they're supposedly teaching kids. But, I'm with you - the tackling is getting worse and worse. I blame the new contract with reduced practices overall and particularly practices with pads. 

 As far as your rugby coach idea, I believe that football could use some rugbyization. Aside from tackling coaches (a good idea), if we went back to leather helmets, head-first hits would become a thing of the past. In fact, concussions may become almost a non-issue since the players would be much more aware of protecting their heads. There's also the possibility that the concussions would be less severe. Violence in the game would be, by necessity, reduced. Instead of turning it into two-hand touch, rugbyize it a little.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@djp9192 The one thing that bothers me most in all of football - regardless of who is playing, regardless of which team they play for - is defenders not tackling properly.  It's the most basic thing that kids are taught how to do on defense, and yet it seems like nobody in the league can do it.

I think the media coverage and highlight reels spun by all the sports networks have given rise to players always wanting to be in those highlights instead of just doing their jobs.  And more often than not, arm tackles and the big hit lead to a missed tackle.

BobLang
BobLang

@beekay31 Guess you missed the pass on the last drive that set up the win. The one that maybe 5 or 6 QBs could make. Your boy Rodgers had a stinker against Cinci a few weeks ago and I bet you didn't berate him. Stafford is an elite QB. Deal with it. 

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore All right, genius, where exactly is the Brady "headline" in this column? He made two appearances under things King didn't like, a section Rogers would be happy to stay out of, and a mention in the section about the batting play. Hilarious how King gets accused of being a "homer," even when he essentially just focuses on Brady for two sentences, and they're both about how bad he was. Sorry there wasn't another sentence saying "Aaron Rogers has perfectly routine win against the godawful Vikings" so you could go to bed without crying yourself to sleep.

BobLang
BobLang

@Dale15 Those were the only two holding calls made differently all game? You know the saying about holding, right? You could call it on every play. 

Shane Mac
Shane Mac

@decredico So, since you were reading the column, you are pointing out to everyone how dumb you are.  Makes me wonder where you were "choosen" in pick up games.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@decredico Why don't you just literally vomit on your keyboard next time? It'd be about as insightful.

BobLang
BobLang

Is Jordy Nelson a "no-name receiver"? I would argue that he is better than anything New England is running out there right now. Wait, I don't want to upset you. Rodgers is the best thing to happen to QBs since Montana retired. Shoot, he had Rice to throw to. Best thing since Bradshaw. No no, he won 4 Super Bowls, and had two hall of famers to throw to. I give up. Rodgers is the best. Ever.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@SpartanTarget @CoreyLivermore King has historically ignored everything the Packers do.  Last week, King sang nothing but praises for Brady and his win with no-names, even going so far as to turn a question in his mailbag last week about the Vikings into a diatribe about how great Brady is with a bunch of no-names.

So I'm just curious as to why Rodgers doesn't get the same treatment.  Hell, all he could say was that Rodgers won against a bad Vikings team, which diminishes that Rodgers led the Packers to 37 offensive points (7 came on the punt return) with no-name receivers, even though last week Brady barely won with no-names but got almost a full page.

And learn how to read, you moron.  I never stated the headline was in today's column, only that he continues to ignore what Rodgers does even though he does it with the same pieces Brady has, only doing it better.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore  I'd probably ask that you actually reply to the right thread. And ill-timed? Are you currently verbally abusing your sainted mater? Did I interrupt? Or have you apparently just never heard the very common phrase "You talk to your mother with that mouth?" and were unable to see that paraphrase? It's cool, though. I totally understand the urge to call someone a a moron and an ass-hat on the Internet, then feign being insulted. Have a graham cracker or something. It'll cool you down.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

When the object of your ill-timed and accusatory violence (punch my mother?) is no longer around, I find the insult to be directed at her. And in very poor taste. I'll ask that you just go away now.

BobLang
BobLang

@SpartanTarget @CoreyLivermore @BobLang Finley's injury might be helping the Packers. He can't drop any balls from the sidelines. And I'm not a Pats homer. Can't stand them. 

Cobb is a no name? Jones is a no name? Nelson is a no name? Finley is a no name? He was throwing to all stars until 2 weeks ago. Great work against a horrible Vikings team. but hardly headline worthy. 

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @BobLang Jesus Christ, stop homering for the Patriots. Gronk's injury gets post after post, but not a word about how injured  Jermichael Finley is.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@BobLang And Gronk isn't a no-name either.  Granted, Gronk has been out since recently.  But still, Rodgers has been getting the job done with a bunch of no-names - just like Brady.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @SpartanTarget It's funny, for a dude who expended a ton of energy talking about how I can't read, you apparently weren't able to pick up on the fact that I was actually insulting you. Your mother's a classy lady. An angel among women, and every day I weep for her secret shame that she has a son with a potty mouth on the Internet and a weird mad-on for Peter King.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@SpartanTarget @CoreyLivermore Really?  That's the best you can come up with?  Insulting my mother?  How original.  How mature.  I'm so angry.  Oh, the humanity - you resorted to the ultimate retard comeback; Hulk smash!

Serioiusly - my mother?  Can't discuss football intelligently, so you decide to insult someone's mom?  Dude, you need help.  Real class move there.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @SpartanTarget This is pretty a pretty solid dialogue, and I'm learning a ton about proper conversation here! Last question, do you punch your mother with that mouth? Should I?

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@SpartanTarget @CoreyLivermore Well, let's see.  You've:

1.  Put words in my mouth that I never uttered;

2. Obviously haven't read the column longer than a week, otherwise you'd know Peter is a Pats homer;

3.  Are attempting to inflame an issue that has nothing to do with you.

In my book, yes, this makes you an ass-hat and a moron.  You can't read, you want something to be there that isn't, and you make shit up to try and make yourself look better.

And now, the troll food gets put away.  I should know better than to feed you idiots.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @SpartanTarget Wait, it doesn't work by me pointing out that you're weirdly obsessed with this idea that PK loves the Patriots and using as an example a column where he bashes Brady and just happens to not mention Rogers, then you calling me an ass-hat and a moron? 

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @SpartanTarget And yet you can't seem to comprehend that "equal treatment" would be verbally pummeling Rogers for making no-chance throws to a TE. But don't be mad, baby! I like being the pain in your ass better than being in anyone else's!

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@SpartanTarget @CoreyLivermore Just asking for equal treatment.  But you are apparently too stupid to comprehend that, so I'll put the troll food away and let you wander off to be a pain in someone else's ass.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @SpartanTarget So ... you're complaining that in this column, Aaron Rogers in not mentioned, because Tom Brady is mentioned in the headlines of other stories. That makes perfect, perfect sense. On a related note, I'm pretty angry that Peter King doesn't mention The Good Wife in this column, while that crappy Sleepy Hollow show is getting headline after headline in Entertainment Weekly.

CoreyLivermore
CoreyLivermore

@SpartanTarget @CoreyLivermore If you can read so well, then tell me where in the sentence "Tom Brady struggles with a bunch of no-name receivers and he gets headline after headline." do I mention that the headline was in today's column.  Well, I'm waiting...

Done waiting.  Why?  Because I never stated the headline was in today's column.  Nor did I infer or imply it.  You want to see something that isn't there so you can try to make yourself look better.

If you're going to accuse someone of something, make sure you have proof to back it up, ass-hat.

SpartanTarget
SpartanTarget

@CoreyLivermore @SpartanTarget Oh, man, where could I have gotten that "headline" thing from? You're right. My reading's not so good. My copy-pasting is much better, though. Maybe I got it from this: "Tom Brady struggles with a bunch of no-name receivers and he gets headline after headline." And I love the line "King has historically ignored everything the Packers do," like you're picking through Chaucer texts here. Sorry you're really, really upset that this lacked a platitude section about Rogers. Maybe next week he'll be terrible for an entire half of a game and King can grouse about him, too! 

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