Movie-Script Endings

Five points from the games that hit me Sunday.

1. How do the Dallas Cowboys run the ball seven times on 30 second-half plays when the back, DeMarco Murray, is knocking it out of the park (seven carries, 41 second-half yards, 5.8-yard average)? The two late interceptions reinforce what Tony Romo is at this point in his career: a very good quarterback who is allergic to the last five minutes of games. It’s happened too many times now to call it a coincidence. But you know the series of this game I thought was so indicative of the way the Cowboys run their offense? Late third quarter, Dallas up 29-17, Dallas ball at its 15. Romo incomplete right, Romo incomplete middle, Romo sack, punt. The Cowboys, trying to run the clock down, spent all of 63 seconds on this drive … when the only thing that mattered at this point was bleeding the clock. Greg A. Bedard has more on this game, and on the play-calling, for The MMQB.

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2. The Rams are 6-8. They’ve lost five games by double-digits. They’ve won five games by double-digits. Against the Saints, they controlled the line of scrimmage well, battering Drew Brees with the Robert Quinn- and Chris Long-led rush, and they got an excellent ball-control performance by rookie back Zac Stacy. St. Louis is at its best when it doesn’t have to fill the air with footballs, and when Quinn has time to make an impact rushing the passer.

3. Julian Edelman in the fourth quarter Sunday: 10 targets, eight catches, 93 yards. His numbers in that quarter and in the last four games (37 catches, 414 yards) say he’s going to be the Welker-type crutch for Tom Brady.

4. We all can see Seattle is a terrific defensive team, but the offensive consistency, even without Percy Harvin, is something to behold. The Seahawks have outrushed the opposition by 500 yards exactly, and out-passed foes by 550 yards. Aside from the road loss at the Niners last week, Seattle’s consistently the best team in football, and it’s not close for second. San Francisco’s the second-best team, I just don’t think it’s going to be that close if they meet in Seattle in the playoffs.

5. If Matt Asiata was precocious enough to score three touchdowns in the absence of Adrian Peterson and Toby Gerhart Sunday, I wonder what our good friend Zach Line would have done were he not placed on IR early in the year?

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Tony Romo helped, but Matt Flynn’s second half saved the Packers.

When the strangest game of his life was over, the 37-36 win over Dallas in Texas on Sunday, Matt Flynn jumped around the locker room with his teammates—yes, they really jumped around, “like little kids at recess,” Flynn said—and then he sat for a few minutes with his offensive linemen. “Did that really just happen?” he said to them.

“I mean, we couldn’t believe it,” Flynn, still hoarse from the game, said via cell phone when the Packers landed back in Wisconsin. “How do you explain that? I don’t know that you can. When we were in the locker room at halftime [down 26-3], did we really think there was a chance, the way we played, that we could come back and win the game? Not really. Then, at the end of the game, when we get the ball back and the one-point lead, we were so giddy because we did the math on the sidelines and realized we could just run the clock out by kneeling. I had to say to [center] Evan Dietrich-Smith, ‘Make sure the snap is clean,’ because we were so happy and we needed to concentrate on getting three snaps done.”

“It’s all worth it now. This is the best day I’ve had in the NFL … and if you have to go through some tough times to get there, well, that’s the way it goes.”

Flynn started believing when he dumped a three-yard TD to tight end Andrew Quarless with 16 minutes left in the game. That made it 29-17, and the fact that it was a two-score game after how poorly the Packers had played made it seem realistic they could catch up. After holding Dallas, they scored again—but this is when a Tramon Williams interception was overturned on review. And Romo went on to drive the length of the field then, re-establishing a 12-point lead midway through the fourth quarter.

(Tim Sharp/AP)
(Tim Sharp/AP)

“By then,” Flynn said, “we were in the game. We thought we could do it. The ball was coming out of my hand great, and I knew we’d have a chance at least to come back.”

Ten plays and 80 yards later, through the sieve of the Dallas defense, Flynn hit James Jones for a short touchdown and it was 36-31, with 4:17 to play. Green Bay needed a stop. Something better happened for them. Romo should have been handing to DeMarco Murray then, just to run the clock. But he was still throwing, and Sam Shields made a good read and pick on a crossing route. “On the next series,” Flynn said, “I checked from a pass to a run twice, because they were in a two-deep.” Burgeoning star Eddie Lacy got the benefit of one of those checks, and barreled to the Dallas 4. A minute later he flew over from the one, and it was 37-36. Romo obliged with another pick on the next series, and then, incredibly after trailing by 23 at the half, Green Bay had to bleed the final 90 seconds by kneeling.

It’s been a long, strange trip for Flynn. Traded from Seattle to Oakland to be the starter before the 2013 draft. Lost the Raiders’ starting job to Terrelle Pryor late in preseason. Cut by Oakland in October. Signed by Buffalo a week later. Cut by Buffalo on Nov. 4, in the afternoon. Four hours later Aaron Rodgers was smashed to the Lambeau turf in a Monday night game against Chicago, suffering a broken collarbone. The next week Flynn was back with the Packers. He suffered through the ignominy of the Thanksgiving Day massacre by the Lions, and in the last two weeks Green Bay has beaten Atlanta and Dallas (Flynn is 50 of 71 for 557 yards, five touchdowns and two picks in those two games), keeping the seat warm for Rodgers. Look for Rodgers to return next Sunday to face Pittsburgh.

“It’s all worth it now,” Flynn said. “This is the best day I’ve had in the NFL. You work for a long time to have the kind of fun we had today, and if you have to go through some tough times to get there, well, that’s the way it goes.”

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The strangest thing that happened Sunday.

Yes, stranger than the Cowboys at home blowing a 23-point second-half lead to a backup quarterback.

I am still trying to figure out what happened at the end of regulation in the Arizona-Tennessee game. To recap: The Titans, down 34-24 with three minutes to go, kicked a field goal, recovered an onside kick and drove to a touchdown with 10 seconds left. So it was 34-33, Arizona, with 10 seconds left, and Tennessee coach Mike Munchak chose to kick the extra point to send the game to overtime. Rob Bironas kicked the PAT. But there was a flag on the play. Offside, Arizona. Munchak had a choice: take the five-yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff, or go half the distance to the goal line and go for two—and the win—from the Arizona 1-yard line.

Munchak chose to keep the point, and the tie, and play for overtime. In overtime, Arizona kicked the winning field goal and beat Tennessee, 37-34.

My problem is twofold. Tennessee had Arizona reeling. In the final minutes the Titans drove 87 yards to a field goal and 54 yards to a touchdown. That’s 141 yards, in about three minutes. And they had a chance to get one yard to win the game, with no overtime. Of course, if they didn’t make the yard, the game would be over, and they’d lose bitterly.

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Bigger than capitalizing on the flow of the game (I’ve never been convinced that momentum is that big a deal, but 141 yards in 15 plays—now that’s a big deal), to me, was the calendar year of 2013. What, exactly, was Munchak saying to his team and fan base after building a team in the offseason that was supposed to be able to grind out a tough yard when needed? The Titans made Andy Levitre the highest-paid guard in football in free agency last March. They drafted Chance Warmack, another guard, with their first-round pick in April. Levitre and left tackle Michael Roos would be one of the premier guard-tackle combinations in football.

And so Mike Munchak, a steely baron of the run game himself, had this choice: one play for the win from the 1-yard line; or overtime, where his chance would be, at best, 50-50, and a little less if he lost the coin flip before OT. Ask yourself this question: If the Titans had 10 shots from the 1-yard line behind Levitre and Roos, with Chris Johnson running behind them, isn’t the team Mike Munchak created in the offseason built to succeed there a majority of the time?

This, really, is the most damning evidence about what is happening in Tennessee. Munchak went all-in on the running game and the tough offensive line, and Tennessee spent that way all offseason, even buying a beefy backup to Johnson, Shonn Greene, to help with the running load. And when it came time to get one yard to win a football game that would have been a tremendous boost in a mostly depressing year—and might have saved the jobs of the entire coaching staff as well—Munchak played for overtime.

That’s a terrible decision. And when it comes time for new club czar Tommy Smith to pass judgment on Munchak after the season, we’d be naïve to think he’s not going to wonder the same thing I just did.

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The Sportsman of the Year decision.

Apologies to all of you in advance: I am not the one who decides Sportsman of the Year. I did announce it on NBC’s Football Night in America Sunday night, but that was a marriage of convenience because I work for NBC too. Chris Stone, the managing editor of the magazine, and the editors of Sports Illustrated pick the award. Many have asked about the decision to pick Peyton Manning over the many qualified others: David Ortiz/Boston Strong, Mariano Rivera, AJ McCarron, Jimmie Johnson, Phil Mickelson … and I’m sure I am leaving out many.

peyton-manning-360Let’s look at the competition this year. In baseball, the great Rivera took a victory lap as the best reliever ever, but the Yankees had a rare mediocre season and he didn’t pitch in the kind of big games he usually does; David Ortiz led the Red Sox to another World Series title in a year the Boston region needed a lift, and he was as clutch as players come. Ortiz would have been a great pick. Both are more than solid candidates. Basketball: LeBron was named Sportsman in 2012. Hockey: No one stands out. Racing: Jimmie Johnson has won six NASCAR crowns, including this year’s. Golf: Phil Mickelson won the Scottish and British opens, and almost the U.S. Open. Tennis: Serena Williams won the French and U.S. Opens, but half a slam is hardly a rarity in tennis circles. Colleges: I could be convinced on Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron, who piloted the Tide to a title last January and had a great year again this season.

Some years the choice is a slam dunk. The U.S. Olympic hockey team in 1980, Michael Jordan in 1991 (first NBA championship, NBA MVP), Cal Ripken breaking Lou Gehrig’s consecutive-games record in 1995, Tom Brady in 2005 after his third Super Bowl title, Michael Phelps in 2008 for his eight Olympic golds. This year the picture is murkier, but I’d go, in order: Manning, Ortiz, Rivera, McCarron, Johnson.

Stone will give his reasoning, because it’s ultimately his call. I like Manning for the award because, at 37 and maybe 85 percent of his former grip and arm strength because of his four neck procedures in 2010 and 2011, he is apace to challenge the two big single-season pro football passing records: touchdowns (50, held by Brady) and yards (5,476, held by Drew Brees). Having one’s best year under the circumstances and with so many young pups with stronger arms and faster legs chasing him is worthy of our praise and respect. And the way he approaches life—this is not Athlete of the Year; it’s Sportsman of the Year—and his job is something admirable. Lee Jenkins wrote about that beautifully.

I was in Denver last month. I asked Manning a year-and-a-half after his free-agency foray, Was there one moment in that process when you said, It’s not going to happen?

“Yeah,” he said, sitting in the Broncos’ cafeteria. “Ashley [his wife] and I actually had those conversations. More than one. Because, you know, you don’t want to embarrass yourself. Because, they’re signing you and people are thinking they’re getting the player they had always seen before. And so, Ashley was the one that was saying, ‘Peyton, you’ve got to try. You’ve got to try.’ With this injury, nothing was happening. Nothing. For weeks. There was no progress. It was so frustrating. And really, I had a peace about it. I had a peace. Because, I had this unbelievable string of health for 20 years—since I was 15 years old as a sophomore in high school. So who was I to complain now that I’m injured? I’ve given it as good a run as I can give it. I’ve got kids now. I had a peace about it. So I didn’t feel like I had to play to get another win or a touchdown. But she’s like, ‘You’ve got to try.’ So I was glad that she pushed me to do it. Once I did it, I was going at it, and then I started seeing a little bit of light there. So, yeah, she was the one who kind of pushed me through it.”

I appreciate the difference of opinion about the award. There usually is one. Manning didn’t win a title this year, and he didn’t win a playoff game, and both of those should be factors in the decision. Factors, not musts. As I said, Stone will give his reasoning today in various venues, but I am bullish on the call for the eighth football person to win Sportsman in this, the 60th year of the award.

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Sneak preview.

I’ll write some in my Tuesday column about Jamaal Charles and his amazing Sunday in Oakland. But I wondered last night if he had some disappointment in not at least tying the NFL record for touchdowns in a game. He scored his fifth touchdown with 18 minutes to play.

“No, no,” he said. “I’m not upset about that at all. That’s crazy. What a great day I had. There’s no way I can be upset after scoring five touchdowns in a game.”

All is right with the world in Kansas City, and with Charles, over the last two games. He has seven touchdowns and 373 total yards, and he’s thrust himself into the debate for the awards—Offensive Player of the Year and MVP—that players find most prestigious. We’ll look at that in tomorrow’s column.

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marylandshooter
marylandshooter

Peter King!  Shame on you and your brethren (Costas).  Do you even take note of the REAL facts, or simply appeal to emotion with zero basis in reason?

What law would have prevented the shooting at Newtown?  CT had strict laws regarding arms, the killer violated the law from the minute he put his hands on any firearm.


I submit not a single law proposed or passed would have prevented the tragedy, NONE.


If gun laws work so well, please explain Chicago; it's an unmitigated failure, serving only to facilitate YOUNG, BLACK men killing each other over drugs.  Yeah Peter, don't let that FACT offend your white guilt sensibilities.  Is it factual or racist?


Facts bounce off you freedom hating gun grabbers like your thick skull is made of rubber.


When the NRA suggests armed security in schools, your side goes into the 2 minute hate, but hey - when Obama puts that plan into action and funds it, nary a peep.  FACT buddy - explain it.


OK, last word - why not go get some facts.  Not from the NRA, not from some gun grabber group, but unbiased data from the CDC.


CDC Recent Data


Age 15-25, causes of death: 


56% - Motor vehicle

25% - Poisoning

5.3% - Drowning

1.8% - Other Land Transportation

1.7% - Fall

1.2% - Firearm


OK Peter, these are cold, hard, unbiased facts that COMPLETELY blow your hollow rhetoric out of the water, but you NEVER, EVER, EVER deign to address this and why, because facts do not support your position.


As a "journalist," you're a disgrace.  Aren't you supposed to report FACTS and not push an agenda?  And the reason you don't?  You can't because you have no facts on your side.  Instead of addressing my points, you shrink from them like a coward.


You are from the Mecca of Tyranny, NJ and now NY (Pre-Ban Big Gulp?), where only cops (and those with juice, like Robert De Niro) can defend themselves with arms by having a carry permit.  And NYPD, they shot 9 innocent bystanders trying to hit ONE CRIMINAL.  I feel safer already.


The Bill of Rights are Civil Rights and because you happen to not approve of ONE, you disparage it, vilify those who believe in the rule of law and promote treason.


You realize you are required to get a permit for a BB gun in NJ?  Dude, grow a set.  Only a coward would abdicate his moral and ethical duty to protect his wife and children in favor of having the state do it for him.


I don't expect a reply because you and those like you simply refuse to face facts and you should be ashamed.

Knowitall
Knowitall

On gun control, Peter, we'll know you are serious when you start condemning the film industry, which increasingly glorifies mayhem with guns of all sorts, and the video game industry, which poisons young minds with a steady stream of virtual violence beyond what should be accepted in a moral society.

Until then, stick to the jock-strap critiques.

JayMalley
JayMalley

That's right Peter, is wasn't YOU making the decision of Sportsman of the Year. Hide under a rock much?


SportBiomech
SportBiomech

http://nfladvancedpowerrankings.blogspot.com/2013/12/week-15-rankings.html


Seattle's shutout of the Giants has put them in their own class with a Momentum-based True Win % of 76.3%. Denver (70.79%) and San Francisco (69.53%) trail in 2nd and 3rd place. These algorithm-based ratings account for game-by-game opponent strength and point differential.They are not end-all-be-all but help show some objective metric to base your individual evaluation on.

Houston is solidly in last place with Washington and Jacksonville "trailing". 

stice75
stice75

Better yet, where is Alex Karras?  It's a shame he still isn't in the Hall of Fame.

brandon0206
brandon0206

Every time I come back to this site for the NFL coverage, King drives me away with his political BS. 

RichardCHamilton
RichardCHamilton

Nothing like a radical liberal like King talking about "gun control." Just what is gun control?

goingaways
goingaways

Jesus was a Jew!! Deal with it you morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tknott
tknott

Just have to say, Dez Bryant is a such a petulant infant. Actually,that's an insult to infants everywhere, as they haven't had the opportunity to grow and mature and learn the importance of teamwork and sportsmanship. If it were me calling the shots, he'd be benched the rest of the year and traded in the offseason. JJ must have a short memory, since Dez is basically T.O. v.2. I heard Mike Ditka say on the radio today, "You get what you tolerate." How true; the Cowboys keep tolerating (even defending) his incredibly juvenile behavior…and then he goes straight to the media to cry about being sorry and was "emotional" and didn't want to show any tears. Give me a friggin' break. Like the rest of those players weren't feeling emotional/upset about the game. Be a MAN and stand with your team - win or lose. Can you imagine Dez Bryant with Belichick or Chuck Noll, Lombardi, or Ditka? He wouldn't last 5 minutes. Time to stop coddling this man-child.

Bob_Ferapples
Bob_Ferapples

MMQB is becoming unbearable. I understand that people like the way PK rambles from one thing to another, but for those who prefer organized thought, its getting old. I like PK, but he's embarrassing the E.W. Scripps School of Journalism.

canadianox
canadianox

Of the top 10 rushers of all-time. Only 2 not in the Hall (Bettis and Tomlinson). Can NOT imagine Tomlinson not getting in on first two ballots. Bettis at #6 HAS to get in!! And I don't want to hear about his career 3.9 yds per carry...he was a halfback AND the short yardage/goal line specialist on both Rams and Steelers. AND Emmitt (#1 all-time rushing) was only 4.2 per carry AND Curtis Martin (#4 all-time) was only 4.0 per carry and both those guys played w fullbacks. PUT BETTIS IN NOW!!!

Tom52
Tom52

a couple of things, 1, it wasn't the Ravens offense that propelled them to victory last week as it was the referees calling 2 terrible pass interference calls in the 4th Q and the phantom peel back block negating Corderelle Patterson's run to the 3 yard line early on and finally the phantom fumble call on Toby Gerhart which replays showed wasn't a fumble at all. Peter King you are such a company man for the NFL that you have lost your sense of reality. Also as to your call for more gun control, do you know what FO means?

canadianox
canadianox

they might as well eliminate fighting from hockey, they have eliminating hitting from football.

alchemyzen
alchemyzen

Jerome Bettis a marginal player for the HOF?  Are you f'in kidding?  He's one of the all time great running backs and has the yardage to prove it!  And as regards RGIIIs future, Terry Bradshaw was benched so many times before becoming the great player he became, he's still got splinters in his butt!

Shane Mac
Shane Mac

Peter - Try Point Special Beer from Stevens Point, Wisconsin.  "It's not just for breakfast anymore."

gary7
gary7

Stop guessing at who will be the next coach for the R E D S K I N S..eer I mean REDSKINS!!!!! we know your record on thoughts when you play GM or Coach or Strategy and it's NOT VERY GOOD, even Vinnie Cerrato laughs at that

seankrego
seankrego

Terrible pick for sportsman... He is a whiner, not a winner...  After a loss last week, he blames the amount of plays they ran the game before... Before the NE game, he already made an excuse about playing in NE a lot more than his share.  He is a bad choice...

TL1961
TL1961

So, winning a playoff game isn't a must to be Sportsman of the Year. But shouldn't the winner have actually done SOMETHING that year? Or is it OK since it's peyton?


Is this Manning's "On Golden Pond"?

TL1961
TL1961

Peter, we know you couldn't take your eyes off Tom Brady, so that explains your ignorance of what happened in other games, but "awful quarterbacking" by Jay Cutler? You're crazy.

Richard Long
Richard Long

Peter - brrrrrrr, by Widmere Brothers is outstanding, at least in my book.  A great red ale, with a decent amount of hops. 

brucemcfarlandoncins1
brucemcfarlandoncins1

@marylandshooter 

First let me state, if you want a gun, have a gun.  I personally do not own one.  Do I believe that in our civilization we can eliminate guns?  Of course not. Should we try? Again no.  I am not naive.... I do not believe in Santa Claus or angels either.


However, the statement "No law would have prevented XYZ from happening" while possibly true is misleading.  No one can claim that other mass shooting (or the like) have been prevented due to the laws because they have not happened. You cannot quantify what has been prevented.


And for those who say it is a right given by the constitution, your are absolutely correct. But don't leave out the fact it states in a "well regulated" militia.


So feel free, imho, to have all the guns you want.  But I do not see the point of owning automatic weapons that are used for war.  Should we be allowed to have grenades?  Tanks? our own personal F-15? These are all "Arms" as well.  The line needs to be drawn somewhere, no?



Knowitall
Knowitall

marylandshooter for President!

Peter K for Minister of Disinformation!

gingerich.jared
gingerich.jared

@Knowitall Ever seen Bowling for Columbine? I'm not a big fan of Michael Moore, but he essentially left zero doubt that the US gun violence issues have nothing to do with violence in games and film. Countries like Germany allow even more violent films to be seen by those under 18 years old; yet their gun violence issues are non existent. The incredibly violent films and games are just as popular or more frequent across the globe and virtually no correlation can be found between a countries entertainment violence and gun violence. 

marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@brandon0206


CDC Recent Data


Age 15-25, causes of death: 


56% - Motor vehicle

25% - Poisoning

5.3% - Drowning

1.8% - Other Land Transportation

1.7% - Fall

1.2% - Firearm


Let's see Peter address some facts; never gonna happen.

SteveMolander
SteveMolander

@brandon0206 Agreed.   King needs to stick to sports and leave his politics off the site.   Last time I checked sports illustrated was supposed to address sports.   C'mon Peter, don't mess up an otherwise solid column.

marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@Bob_Ferapples  He certainly is allergic to facts, and like the coward he is, refuses to address the following:

CDC Recent Data


Age 15-25, causes of death: 


56% - Motor vehicle

25% - Poisoning

5.3% - Drowning

1.8% - Other Land Transportation

1.7% - Fall

1.2% - Firearm 

blynder
blynder

@Bob_Ferapples 

So are you going to be done reading?  I'm always a bit fascinated with the people who say PK is horrible, etc.  Wouldn't it just be easier to stop reading....?


marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@Tom52  Yes he has lost touch with reality and until he can explain this, I will call him what he is - a liar and a coward.


CDC Recent Data


Age 15-25, causes of death: 


56% - Motor vehicle

25% - Poisoning

5.3% - Drowning

1.8% - Other Land Transportation

1.7% - Fall

1.2% - Firearm 

canadianox
canadianox

@seankrego and, he sucks in the cold and in January/February, wherever the game is played

RescuedfromESPN
RescuedfromESPN

@seankrego Well if not him, then who? Lebron has won it too many times, and while Brady is having a better calendar year given all of his losses on offense/defense, he's a bit of an a55hole (which is a good thing in some aspects.) Ergo, manning deserves it.

marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@brucemcfarlandoncins1 @marylandshooter


Well, I'm glad you aren't a proponent of treason; that never ends well as history has shown.  And NO, civilization not only cannot, but should not attempt to eliminate arms from free people.  That never works out well either . . . Stalin, Mao, Hitler . . . 250 MILLION 

slaughtered by their own governments.

And while we're at it, lets just lay it on the table: some people NEED KILLING.  Yeah, a piece of garbage that would 
kill a helpless child or aged person should be eliminated from the gene pool, post haste.


Well if you can tell me what law would have prevented Newtown, I'm like Ross Perot (all ears).  Let's hear your answer instead of dodging the issue.

Hypothetical: we are side by side in church, a mad gunman bursts in and starts shooting. In my left hand I have my cell 
phone, in my right I have a pistol I have a permit to carry.  Should I engage the shooter or call 911 (who will then dispatch persons with guns)?

Maybe you missed the news flash: the 2nd Amendment is an "individual right" not a collective one.  See Heller v D.C., McDonald v Chicago.  Try and stay current with the adults in the conversation.

Now, as far as "automatic weapons" you really peel back the facade and show your ignorance.  NOBODY used an automatic 
weapon at Newtown or any other place; if you're gonna have a discussion, try and understand the subject matter.  Go read up the difference between a true assault weapon (can be fired in a fully automatic mode) and a semi-automatic weapon defined politically as an "assault weapon" because it looks, but does not function, like the former.  Seriously, a substantive understanding is absolutely imperative to have an adult conversation.  You sir have swallowed the media propaganda, hook, line and sinker.

You've been duped and aren't even smart enough to know you're a rube.


Last I checked it was the "Bill of Rights" and not the "Bill of Needs as approved by brucemcfarlandoncins1"  I don't see the point of a Mercedes, Hummer or SUV, BUT this is America and people are free to choose.  You don't get to choose for me; you only get to choose for YOU buddy.  It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg.

Knowitall
Knowitall

Well then. If Michael Moore says so, it must be true.

Please, gingerich. Spare us the lessons from that buffoon.

AlainLapointe
AlainLapointe

Canadianox ,......G.W.B. ( #43 ) will send you a romantic letter !!!!! Congratulations !!!

marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@blynder @Bob_Ferapples  


Spreading misinformation is not something I'll stand by and watch.  I'll keep posting the data below until someone addresses it.  We know that'll never happen so get used to seeing it.


CDC Recent Data


Age 15-25, causes of death: 


56% - Motor vehicle

25% - Poisoning

5.3% - Drowning

1.8% - Other Land Transportation

1.7% - Fall

1.2% - Firearm 

marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@brucemcfarlandoncins1 @marylandshooter  (Part II)


I guess you'd be surprised to know that the majority of cannons used in the War of Independence were privately owned.  I laugh when I write that: YES, a private citizen CAN buy tanks and military aircraft on the open market!  Google is your friend, give it a try.  I'm 

actually in the market for a APC with tires because YES, you CAN tag them and drive them on the public roadways.  LOL - I wish I could see your face.

EVERY person has the most basic civil and human right - the right to self-preservation and survival.  Does it shock you 
to know that 41 of 50 states issue concealed carry permits to law-abiding citizens?  How about the fact that you may openly carry a firearm in PA, WV and so many, many more.  Shocking the streets aren't running red with the blood of innocents huh?  It certainly runs contrary to the rhetoric you and so many swallow whole.

If your ideas had ANY merit, Chicago, NYC, etc., would be shining examples of a gun-free Utopia, so what gives?  They 
are utter, dismal, absolute failures in every sense of the word.  Absolute, incontravertable evidence your philosophy, policy and approach is an abject, catastrophic and deadly failure.

OK, NOT A SINGLE PERSON in this or any other conversation will address the FACTS as recorded by the CDC below:

CDC Recent Data


Age 15-25, causes of death:
56% - Motor vehicle
25% - Poisoning
5.3% - Drowning
1.8% - Other Land Transportation
1.7% - Fall
1.2% - Firearm

The hard truth is there is a national agenda to target firearms and firearm owners.  If a drunk driver kills 5 people, we blame the drunk driver and not the car.  If an insane person shoots 5 people, we blame the firearm and not the person!  In what reality does this even pass for logic?  You have to be screwed up in the head not to recognize how backwards that is.

Words like "common sense, reasonable," and "compromise" are just code words for gun grabbers.  A gun grabber's idea of 
compromise: they wanna infringe on ALL your 2nd Amendment rights (rob you of $100), but right now, they'll settle for stealing a portion of your civil rights (they rob you of $50).  You want compromise, put something on the table.  Let's talk about National Reciprocity for concealed carry permits.  My driver's license is good in all 50 states, why should I have to shed my civil right of self defense at some arbitrary border?  A permit to carry arms in one state should be honored by all states.  The

FBI does ALL the background checks (ask me how I know), so it's not like a FL felon will be granted a PA permit.


I'm an American and the freedom I have is my birthright; I will not surrender it.  I will not let ANYONE take it from me.  You better ask yourselves who's doing all the killing and why they're doing it, and then focus your attention there.  American gun owners have had enough.

On April 19, 1775 about 700 
British Army regulars, under Lieutenant Colonel Francis Smith, were given secret orders to capture and destroy military supplies that were reportedly stored by the Massachusetts militia at Concord.  That event touched off the War of Independence.

In March of 1861, the American Civil War began and left between 600,000-750,000 dead and unknown civilian casualties and 
war wounded.  One in ten Northern males, aged 20-40 died; one in three Southern males suffered the same fate.  You'd (the universal "you") do well to let law abiding American gun owners alone.  Instead, turn your focus to the inner-city drug peddlers, the guys walking the street with 2 and 3 and 4 violent criminal convictions, numerous weapons charges.  It's not pasty-faced, chubby, middle aged men in suburbia shooting it out on the front lawn over a missing newspaper  DRUGS!  THUGS!

Get a 
clue.


"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force.  Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." ~ Patrick Henry speech, June 5 1788.

I am THE MarylandShooter.  If you want my guns,  μολὼν λαβέ.


Knowitall
Knowitall

".....other countries have do NOT have a considerable........."????

I guess I'd rather be snarky than unintelligible. And better snarky than a buffoon like Mr (Moore - I think you left that out??).

Better learn a bit of English grammar before you call someone an idiot............Idiot.

BillAbendroth
BillAbendroth

@Knowitall 

Actually "Know It all," if you deigned to watch Bowling for Columbine, you'd "know" that Mr, disdains all quick and simple "explanations" for why the shooting at Columbine happened.  Just one example--Moore points out that in Canada, per capita ownership of firearms is substantially higher than in the US, and yet the Canadians level of gun violence is considerably smaller.


But as for your snarky comment, are you saying that other countries have do NOT have a considerably more violent film and entertainment than the US, yet lower rates of gun violence?  Or are you just being a contrary idiot?

marylandshooter
marylandshooter

@BillAbendroth @SteveMolander @brandon0206  


Because when gun grabbers exploit the anniversary it's a "tribute to the memory" and when pro freedom groups do it, somehow the tone changes to something despicable and inappropriate.  Explain that, if you can.


So now you want to stifle speech as well as the civil right to self-defense?


I, and every person, has the RIGHT to self-preservation.  Police have NO DUTY to protect any individual, so what would you suggest?

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