Money Talks—and Walks

The Broncos’ new cornerback, Aqib Talib, on being tempted to stay in New England (sort of, kind of) and how the current CBA is finally paying off

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PETER KING: So, you go from Tom Brady’s team to Peyton Manning’s team. Did you have an offer from New England that tempted you to stay?

AQIB TALIB: I definitely had an offer from the Patriots. But there was language in there that definitely was a little shaky compared to Denver’s offer. The Patriots are a great organization. I loved my time there. I loved playing for Bill. He’s a great leader. I’ll be able to tell my kids I played for Bill Belichick someday and I was Tom Brady’s teammate. Really, it’s just a dream I’m experiencing, when two great organizations want you like this.

Funny Money

Our Andrew Brandt explains why Aqib Talib won’t see all six years of his contract in Denver. It’s one of the few guarantees regarding free agency in 2014.

KING: Your contract is basically for about $9 million a year (six years, $54 million), but as with most contracts, it’ll be pretty easy for Denver to get out of it after three years. Does that concern you, that you might not play this all the way out?

TALIB: I don’t really get into that part of the business too much, how much of a contract is guaranteed and whether I’ll make it all the way through. I hope I stay here for six years. Hopefully I see all six years, because that means I’m playing well. But for me, I just come and play as hard as I can. It’s the same for me, thinking about this season, as it was last year, when I was in the last year of my contract. As a player, I don’t think you can worry about that too much.

KING: This seems like the first year the CBA—which is now three years old—is paying off for a lot of the players. What do all these big-money signings say to you about the labor agreement?

TALIB: Now we’re seeing the good part of this CBA. You can see the CBA is working well for the players right now. The first couple of years, there were other things about the deal the players liked—the limited padded practices, training camp being easier on the players, players having more of an offseason. But now the cash part of the CBA is coming into view, and it’s good to see. I don’t know the exact rules, but when the cap goes up now, the owners have to spend more of the cap money than they did before. [Collectively, NFL teams must spend 95% of available cap money between 2013 and 2016, or the players’ association can take the unspent amount and distribute it to players.] I think the league is better off when the players are getting rewarded like this.

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CIA
CIA

The Patriots didn't want you anymore. Stop whining. Team over individual. The Patriot way

salvaje50
salvaje50

Denver can get out of Talib's contract after just one year.  Talib will earn $11.5 million in one year if they do that.  That's an overpay for that one yer, for sure.  But it's hardly the $26 million guaranteed that was originally reported.

dchiu2013
dchiu2013

Fans should just shut up about player's  salaries. It aint your money. Why are you upset?

henrichsj
henrichsj

So... Out of one side of Talib's mouth, he calls NE's fine print "shaky." Yet, out of the other side of his mouth in defending the Denver deal, he claims not to worry about how much of a contract is guaranteed. 


Which is it Talib?


Sounds like a player unnecessarily grinding an axe against a team that was good to him. How about this Talib: NE offered you a fair contract. Denver offered you a better one. You took Denver's offer. Shut your mouth and move on.


Sorry Aquib, but NE got the better end of this deal by signing Revis. Have fun nursing that hip. Or was it quad. I can't remember.

Cranky24/7
Cranky24/7

Did I miss it - where's the question about the Wes Welker hit?

JayDubIII
JayDubIII

Talib signed in Denver since pot is now legal in CO.

Enforcer77
Enforcer77

Spygate was a total non story, just blown up by ignorant haters.  Scouting the opposition in one way or another has been going on since sports was invented.  Cavemen would scout other cavemen before they started a rock fight.  LOL.  Cameras on the sideline out in the open in front of 70,000 witnesses?  That's supposed to be a big deal?  You kidding me?  LMAO.  SPYGATE = NON STORY back then, and its even MORE of a non story now. 

Enforcer77
Enforcer77

Talib and Spikes trying to downplay their injuries because they don't want their new teams who are going to pay them millions of dollars to think that they are getting damaged goods ..... which they are.  LOL.

bingelistening
bingelistening

@dchiu2013  some people genuinely think that because they buy hot dogs and beer at games, it is their money.

anon76
anon76

@henrichsj  

"The Patriots are a great organization. I loved my time there. I loved playing for Bill. He’s a great leader."


Yeah, boy he's really an ingrate, huh?

RickDesper
RickDesper

@henrichsj  I really didn't see a need to take that as a slight, unless you're personally involved in the Patriots' FO.  

FredFunStuff
FredFunStuff

Good god why did yu have to mention spygate?! Now all the 'experts' from both sides have to come out and sling crap at eachother like chimps in neighboring habitats. I'm a Niners fan and the Pats are my least favorite team in football. That said, why does anyone still care about spygate anymore? It's even more annoying than bountygate, bullygate, and any other -gate that I'm forgetting. It was shady, they lost a pick, and the world kept turning. If people want to bash the Pat's can we please focus on the fact that the QB who tried to spike Ed Reed in the jubblies also does Uggs commercials? Or that apparently their coach is so poor he looks and dresses like a hobo? These are the real issues here.

CharlesFreeman
CharlesFreeman

Well, it was against the rules and coincidence or not, Pats haven't won a SB since.

StephenCurtis
StephenCurtis

@Enforcer77  teams do physicals and all contracts can be voided if they fail those physicals. If talib had a hip injury and it showed up on physical no way denver doesn't flunk him on physical , all players have injuries but the pats do lie about there injury report and we know it. don't be such a homer, talib isn't damaged goods, his biggest issue is off the feild stuff for most part, and fact he hasn't played a full 16 game season, he wasn't saying he didn't have an injury just it wasn't his hip. the spikes stuff is the sketchy part. He says he wasn't injured and they put him on ir for missing a meeting. 

theboneman21
theboneman21

@Enforcer77 Spikes is a dirtbag. A PED using one. As a Gators fan, I thank him for the crystal football and the awesome hit on Moreno. But he is filth.

eriklasalle
eriklasalle

@CharlesFreeman  Not sure of your point.  There have been MANY other teams that haven't won a SB since spygate. The Pats have been to 2 SB's since spygate, only team in history to go 18-0.. fact.   So I guess your point is that NE has not done well since spygate? Or maybe they can only beat AFC since the spygate incident.. hmmm.. in the last decade, they are 38-6 against NFC teams...... .... ... ..... ... Or maybe your point is that they're really not that good?  3 SB wins, 7 conference championships (5 since 2001), 13 division championships.. hmmmmmm..... yea.  good point.

JakeLetourneau
JakeLetourneau

@CharlesFreeman dude ..the rule changed in 2006 and I recall the patriots won their 3sb years prior to that so technically the "spygate" accusation is only for the 2006 season and beginning of 2007. BTW the team with the highest winning % since then , is still THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS so go check your fact before you open your big ignorant mouth once again

henrichsj
henrichsj

@StephenCurtis @Enforcer77  Actually, Talib's biggest issue is missing games due to nagging injuries. Talib hasn't played a full NFL season ever. He is flat out lying about denying a hip injury. 

theboneman21
theboneman21

@StephenCurtis @Enforcer77I remember a time when the Pats were accused of NOT reporting as a strategic tactic so opponents couldn't game plan.


Now we're going to operate on the notion they are over reporting ?

CharlesFreeman
CharlesFreeman

Words you would never, ever say to Spikes' face, given the opportunity.

abbott1jeff
abbott1jeff

@theboneman21 @Enforcer77  True,how true....It was a matter of time before he imploded..Bill managed him until he couldn't be on time. If he wasn't gifted enough to play ball, he would be saying"you want fries with that burger dude".  

MickHayes
MickHayes

@AF Whigs @sngfx  Higher salaries mean owner's costs go up which means ticket prices and TV contracts go up which means we watch more commercials.  End result: almost 4 hour telecast for a 1 hour game.

Joebuckster
Joebuckster

@PhillyBroncoFan @pattyfan2291 @AF Whigs @sngfx  Well, I only pay $180 for 6 months of the Sunday ticket and get all of the games for the entire season. I don't live in the US, so not a single tax dollar of mine goes to anything related to the NFL. I couldn't care less what they make.  Stop crying. If you have a gripe about where your tax dollars are going, take it up with a politician.

PhillyBroncoFan
PhillyBroncoFan

@pattyfan2291 @AF Whigs @sngfx  Correction: everyone, including "the fans" pay the players salaries, AND the owners with hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars for new stadium construction, tax subsidies via additional sales tax and then tax breaks that last for 10-20 years.

No one should kid themselves, the NFL (a designated non-profit organization) is cleaning up and taxpayers are paying for it.

pattyfan2291
pattyfan2291

@AF Whigs @sngfx I have no problem with the players making this money. We support all of the revenue. We buy the jerseys, we buy game tickets, we buy memorabilia and so on. We can't even begin to complain about the players salaries and then turn around and buy the merch that helps get these players paid. They have a unique skill set that millions all over the world watch them before their abilities. So I agree with AF Whigs.

AF Whigs
AF Whigs

@sngfx:  Wow, a lot of anger in that post.  Calling people "ignorant" isn't a very sociable way to participate in an adult conversation.

Yes, fans contribute to the income the NFL makes, but the POINT of the original post was that fans shouldn't complain about how much money the players make.  

I agree with that.  They make what they make because they have football skills that allow them to earn that kind of money.  Just like George Clooney is allowed to earn whatever the studio wants to pay him.  

If you or I had the skills to play a pro sport, we would.  Otherwise, getting jealous about how much money anyone else makes is pretty pointless.  What about someone like Paris Hilton?  She earned her ridiculous money by being born.  At least pro athletes have to work and earn their pay.

sngfx
sngfx

@ProfessorGriff @bingelistening@dchiu2013Are you all so ignorant that you really think fans DON"T pay the players' salaries? Even worse, taxpayers are paying even if they don't like football at all. This game does not exist in a vacuum -- if there are no fans, there is no game. Think before you post.

AF Whigs
AF Whigs

@Scramble @eriklasalle@CharlesFreeman:  I'm not a Pats apologist or fan or anything, but I guess I didn't realize that they were the subject of such conspiracy theories.  


If people really believe the NFL is fixed to that degree, why watch?  I wouldn't.

Scramble
Scramble

@eriklasalle @CharlesFreemanThey only went 18-0 because the NFL profited each week by keeping them undefeated. If you think they beat an injury riddled Ravens team with Boller at the helm without the officials help then just keep your head in the sand.

el80ne
el80ne

@eriklasalle @el80ne@Mark112@JakeLetourneauDid the Panthers make the move to the AFC this past season because I'm pretty sure they did not? That's SIX. Then you conveniently chose to ignore the fact you lost TWICE to the Giants in '11. That's SEVEN.

What happened to your 38-6 Pats vs NFC record over the LAST TEN YEARS you were boasting about? I haven't bothered to look past '09 but I'm very confident the Patriots didn't run the table on the NFC for five years straight, in fact I know they didn't since they lost to the Giants in '07 too. So that's at least 8 and I haven't even bothered digging through 5 years of the reg season.


When a stat looks too ridiculous to be true, it usually is. Such was your claim.

TerryEnright
TerryEnright

@Mark112 @JakeLetourneau  AFC East had the third best winning percentage in the NFL. NFC West is first, AFC West is second. Then the AFC East. Even if you take out the first place teams, or those with the most wins that might skew the win totals, the AFC east is still the third best division. Exchange Denver for NE, think the Pats would win that division? Yep. Exchange the Pats for the Seahawks, Pats would be second at worst, it they stayed healthy it would not be a stretch to see the Pats win that division as well. Look, you can hate the Pats, but you can't say they aren't a good team. How exactly does the media add to the Pats win total? Even last year when injuries really nailed them, they still beat both Denver (regular season), N.O. (both at home), as well as the Ravens in Baltimore. In fact two of the Pats losses were in the division. Like I say, hate if you want, but your argument about them only having a good record because of

their division just doesn't hold water.

eriklasalle
eriklasalle

@Mark112 @JakeLetourneau  38-6 against NFC teams in last decade, which last time I checked, was not in the AFC east.... yeah, they are a blown up media creation.  

Mark112
Mark112

@JakeLetourneau

The Patriots are a blown up media creation by a legion of Tom Brady groupies much like yourself. If they played in a competitive division we wouldn't even hear about them. 

AF Whigs
AF Whigs

@theboneman21:  I read John Feinstein's NFL book a few months ago - can't recall what it's called but he followed the Ravens for a season.  Anyway, the whole injury reporting thing is a game ALL NFL teams play - whether it's who they place on IR or how they report the availability of players leading up to a game.

theboneman21
theboneman21

@CharlesFreeman I wouldn't ? Why is that now ? Am I to assume because he plays football he is some sort of elite fighter ? He gouges people's eyes when they are buried under a pile of bodies; clearly he is a spineless coward.

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